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Disambiguation

Please take care with so-called "disambiguation" pages. The distinction between "overview articles" and "disambiguation" pages often isn't very clear, especially when you compare different language wikipedia's. E.g. it happens quite often German "articles" disambiguate to a few sub-articles, but actually have quite a lot of descriptive text in between. Those articles may or may not be marked with disambiguation templates. The same occurs for English, French, etc... wikipedia's as well.

So please, don't just remove valid interwiki links like this [1] or even [2]. Also, disambiguation pages do NOT need to have the same name in both languages, and these interwiki's are completely legal.

Also this is wrong [3] : a previous bot just made the good choice to add some valid interwiki's (see previous edit on that article), so don't just throw them away again; that's quite pointless. There are numerous good reasons that articles are somehow "disambiguated" in one language, and look more like an article in another. As said, for general topics, the distinction is not that straightforward that a full automatic bot can simply resolve it. Actually, people get best results when they run those semi-automatic (or leave the disambiguations out, because that gives too much errors) --LimoWreck (talk) 23:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I know some bot-users sometimes refer to some "general guidelines" of "FAQ" for their bots, but that's no excuse to do something wrong. Many bot-users have picked up the remarks however, and take more care when handling disambiguation pages, as full-automatic bots get it wrong too often ;-) --LimoWreck (talk) 23:35, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

(original message)

Dear LimoWreck, thank you for your interest in interwiki links. The bot you mentioned as making "good choices" is adding wrong interwiki links like this one. It unifies disambiguation pages and articles. Please, see this little example:
  • first run: "x1:Mercury (planet)" links to "x2:Mercury (disambiguation)"
  • second run: "x2:Mercury (disambiguation)" links to "x3:Mercury (mythology)"
and then "x1:Mercury (planet)" links to "x3:Mercury (mythology)"
If x1 and x3 are spoken by small communities, they will never find this wrong interwiki link. Please, imagine this process in thousands of disambiguation pages.
Many bots like Synthebot are trying to fix these wrong interwiki links, and there is a human intervention when the automatic process is not enough.
Thank you again for your understanding. Regards, --Julian (disc.) 01:07, 15 novembre 2008 (UTC)