Discussion Usator:ILVI

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Jay Bowks Usator:ILVI


Car Jay, multe cambios esseva facite al versiom in IA de Wiki. Plure articulos que io scribeva, tamen, simplemente dispareva. Le ligamines remane, ma illos es solmente pro inserer nove textos. Que eveniva? Debe io rescriber iste articulos? Paolo Castellina, pcastellina@despammed.com

Car Paolo, multe de mi articulos anque dispareva in le cambios del dominios e le nove software, (primo de ia.wikipedia.com a ia.wikipedia.org e depois del software UseMod que requireva cata parola in le titulo de un articulo in litteras majuscule al software MediaWiki le qual non face iste requirimento. Assi multe del articulos es in le base de datos, ma on debe trovar los). Nos ha un ligamine in le Frontispicio pro medio del qual nos pote trovar multe de iste articulos. E regrettabilemente, alcun articulos, si illes non habeva un ligamine interne a un altere pagina, forsan non pote esser extrahite a minus que on sape le titulo exacte de illo in le base de datos. Nota que nos vadeva de quasi 4000 articulos a quasi 2600. Alcun de mi articulos io ha in un file de texto ascii, e nunc los recarga sur le base de datos, alteres que io redactava inlinea io debe re-scriber. Io spera que isto adjuta explicar le problema, anque altere linguas experientiava un cambio, forsan non tanto 'drastic', ma in le futuro nos potera continuar sin le problemas del vetere software e toto essera plus secur, si Deo vole... Con reguardos amical -- Jay B. Usator:ILVI

Jay, ultra le facto que articulos como "Cinquanta-novem", "Sexanta", etc. non me pare haber loco in Wikipedia, le texto additional "Interlingua es un lingua neolatin international de aspecto natural..." al base de iste articulos me pare un excrescentia que nos pote dispensar. — Amicalmente, Ensjo 15:35 dec 24, 2003 (UTC)

Gratias pro exprimer tu puncto de vista re isto Ensjo, io anque crede que illo es un dispensabile addition, ma io infiltrava ille texto pro le dis-vergoniate placer de promover Interlingua in le cercatores de parolas... ;-) Jay B. Usator:ILVI

Gratias Ilvi. Io pensa que jam es resolvite tote le ligamines que esseva orphane super mi thema (Cervantes, Le Quixote). Altere cosa, proque ultimemente ha nulle personas in le chat del UMI? Pro me illo(le chat) esseva multissime util pro fixar mi cognoscimentos de Interlingua, de plus io nota le absentia de Ensjo, Martiyn, tu, etc. que vos esseva tanto agradabile!. Salute. Usator:Novus

Gratias, il me pare que le problema es le tempore, nos omne non ha tempore in nostre vitas pro facer toto que nos gaudia in facer. Io visita le sito del UMI de vice a vice exactemente pro vider si alcuno es in le chat. Ma io non me junge, forsan io deberea junger al chat e sperar, assi si alcuno altere visita forsan nos poterea "chattar" pro alcun minutas. Gratias pro mentionar lo... Jay B. ILVI 18:52 jan 4, 2004 (UTC)

Car Jay,

Nos nunc ha un mailing-list in interlingua pro parlar del subjectos de wikipedia, io te invita a inscriber te hic: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiia-l

JoSoares 20:49 jan 8, 2004 (UTC)


Floretto de ICQ[modificar fonte]

Io tentava adder le imagine de stato de ICQ de Jay (le floretto, verde = in linea, rubie = foras de linea) http://web.icq.com/whitepages/online?icq=787994&img=5. Isto es un imagine, mais proque illo non ha un termination ".jpg" o simile, Wikipedia lo monstra como un ligamine. Io ha probate usar <img>, con e sin <nowiki>, mais tamben non functiona. Ideas? Ensjo 11:28 jan 15, 2004 (UTC)


Transferer le Biblia a Wikisource[modificar fonte]

Jay, per favor, transfere gradualmente le traductiones del Biblia a Wikisource, que es un loco plus appropriate pro iste typo de publication.

Gratias, Ensjo 12:30 jan 21, 2004 (UTC)

Si claro Ensjo, nunc que nos ha iste ressource nos deberea usar lo. In toto il me place multo que le wikipedia es un platteforma tante facile pro collaborar. E hic io ha essayate comenciar le traduction del Biblia pro incoragiar alteres a revisar e redactar e concordar in un texto del Biblia. Nos deberea usar le Wikisource o Wikibooks pro iste typo de traductiones etc. Anque quando nos ha un Wiktionary pro Interlingua le definitiones de cata parola pote esser immagasinate illac. Tu notarea le Definition e le Exagese que io usava in le Wikipedia, mi idea esseva facer un curte Definition e un plus longe encyclopedic Esagese. Gratias pro mentionar isto e io essayara travaliar con illo. Con salutes amical ILVI 14:04 jan 23, 2004 (UTC)

Ladino wiki[modificar fonte]

Hi! My warning comes from my background as an admin on the Spanish Wikipedia. There, the custom is not to blank anyone's personal page, no matter who it is, because it is just that, the person's own personal page. I thought this was universal, but I would fully understand if this were not the case. Additionally, I also noticed the immediate vandalism and it worried me. Vandalism is the last thing that lad:, being a brand new wiki, needs at a crucial time like this. This is why I contacted a steward and requested that the user be blocked. As far as achieving admin status, there I am limited in the ways in which I can help you. You must do the following:

  1. Create a Ladino-language copy or some derivation of m:Administrators. Many prefer simple:Wikipedia:Administrators if they are not translating to there native language.
  2. Request the permission at m:Meta:Requests for adminship.

I cannot help you here since, while when written in Latin characters I understand it perfectly, I am not literate in Ladino however I do wish you the best of luck. Saludos--Orgullomoore 07:27 oct 11, 2005 (UTC)

SQL[modificar fonte]

Car ILVI, tu sapeva que SQL esse activita jam? ;-) - Fire 06:25 apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

Requesta[modificar fonte]

Car ILVI, io habe facite un requesta que esser facite in un administrator in Wikipedia:Administratores, proque assi io poterea habile a luctar le vandalismo e le spam, e tamben io potera adjutar in traducer le resto del 'interfacie'. Proque tu es le sol administrator que ha essite hic in le tres menses passate, an tu pote revider mi application? Almafeta 20:05 jun 29, 2005 (UTC)

... o forsan a sysop, pro que alco que io vole facer esse traducer le resto del 'interfacie' a Interlingua. nn; Almafeta 20:10 jun 29, 2005 (UTC)

concerning jcb[modificar fonte]

may i offer help in this case? i see you blocked jcb infinitely (for the moment), but i think a real solution needs to be of a different nature. as i see it, you could start a de-admin poll/vote together (a proper page will be needed: on which page?), or a discussion, topical and to-the-point, or both? if you are willing to dicuss the matter, and unblock jcb, i am also willing to de-admin jcb (for the moment) before a more permanent solution is reached. oscar 12:35, 23 novembre 2005 (UTC) (m:User:Oscar) (btw i can read most of the interlingua language, but not write)

Thanks Oscar, for volunteering to help correct this situation.
I've been getting many emails with complaints about deletions of people's work. When I check the logs many times there was no record of the deletion or even creation of many articles. I complained about this at the mailing list more than once.
But... this is an instance where the user is known, who has admin priviledges, and who sometimes makes edits and deletions with only an IP showing.
i found no deletions by an ip-number, nor an ip with such rights, see the deletions log and the user list (also stating the rights): only a sysop can delete, not an anonymous user. i would appreciate if you forwarded me the e-mails, confidentially of course. how come you suspected and blocked (see the blocklist) Usator:86.195.145.115 and Usator:86.195.145.5?
So in order to stop the activity in its tracks I blocked the user and IP indefinitely until the situation is resolved.
How and why the articles are missing and no record is available is a puzzle to me, the only record at times is that a count was taken of the total number of articles and logged at meta... then suddenly there appear lower numbers... but the wiki shows no record of at times hundreds of deletions.
i found all deletions since february 2005 in the log of deleted articles, but of course no anonymous deletions. do you think there were any mistakes made in the deletions as shown by the log? (as a sysop, you can check the contents of deleted articles).
As you may appreciate having had this situation for quite a while and with many users upset, when I saw that Jcb was one who was clearly deleting articles, sometimes whole articles and sometimes stubs, I wanted to stop the situation and also throw a red flag about it at the email list.
I do not wish to reinstate the user on ia.wiki just yet as he hasn't answered, nor had time to state his position, I'm willing to listen and I encourage him to explain to the many users he's upset, perhaps on the email list why he acted in this way and if he has knowledge of the disappearence of hundreds of articles without logs from the wiki. I wish I could get to the bottom of this situation and I would appreciate any information or help you can provide in this regard. ILVI 13:20, 23 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]
the blue comments are mine, blue, to more easily distinguish them since i invaded your text ;-) i hope to have provided you with some evidence. it seems to be a misunderstanding in my opinion. also the two ip's you blocked do not belong to jcb in my humble opinion, what exactly made you think they would? best regards, oscar 23:46, 23 novembre 2005 (UTC)

Some comments:

  • I unblocked myself to talk about this question, I will temporary stop all other activity at IA.wikipedia.
  • I've been blocked by an INACTIVE user. (less than 50 edits in the past 12 months)
  • Ilvi blocked me without even try to talk in advance.
  • I don't know anything about missing logs, you might ask a developer.
  • In march (more than 8 months ago) I found a lot of blanked articles at IA.wikipedia. I spoke to a steward and he asked me to undo the blanking. I reverted the blanking of more than 500 articles.
  • The IPs 86.195.145.5 and 86.195.145.115 are DEFINITELY NOT mine. My ONLY IP starts with '62.'
  • I don't delete hundreds of articles. I only delete nonsense. Sometimes people contact me at my Dutch discussion page to ask me to delete a nonsense-article.
  • I am an ACTIVE user, I do a lot of robot-maintenance with RobotJcb, I've done a lot of categorisation (check my edits) and I check for vandalism almost every day. I could stop this robot-attack immediately, because I was online.

As a summary: This must be a MISUNDERSTANDING. I totally do not understand why you blocked me. So please explain what happened. And I repeat, I will temporary not do anything else at IA.wikipedia, not even revert vandalism. Jcb 17:58, 23 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]

jcb, please wait patiently and do not interfere for the moment, ok? best regards, oscar 23:46, 23 novembre 2005 (UTC)

Jcb, I blocked you to put you on notice while the matter of deletions is resolved. You have indeed made many deletions and I've gotten complaints about your not discussing deletions before making them. I don't know you from Adam, I don't have anything against you except that you are the one who has been mentioned to me along with some IP addresses which I also blocked. If these aren't your addresses all fine and good. But let's get to the bottom of why there are so many articles missing. I haven't been an inactive wikipedian. Actually I've been here and in many other language wikis as well. Why are there missing files and not even trace that these existed.
Why again are there hundred of thousand of words according to the Statistics Table for ia.wiki that are missing. Why are there negative new article entries? This is all very strange. As it was you are the only other admin I'm not acquainted with. You don't seem to know Interlingua much, not that I hold that against you, but maybe I thought you didn't discuss with the contributors because you couldn't speak the language. And finally you are the one with a bot on the wiki. So I tried to put a hold on things until this gets resolved. And it has caused me a lot of aggravation so far. ILVI 14:59, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]

I watched the statistics and did some research and now I can tell you exactly what happened. At 23 August 2004 a vandal blanked more than 1000 articles. When an article is empty, it will not be counted anymore. That declares why the articles disappeared in the statistics. In August 2004 I wasn't yet active at Wikipedia. In March 2005, I discovered the vandalism. A steward gave me temporary adminship and I reverted the vandalism and, as you can see, the articles re-appeared in the statistics. So I am not the one who removed them, but I am the one who repaired them. I hope this explanation helps you understanding what happened. And don't worry, I am not angry with you. Jcb 16:56, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]
Thanks Jcb, I'm not angry with you either. I am angry at the vandalism and whatever the reason is that some contributor's articles keep disappearing. You see this is going on on a regular basis from the messages I get. If you looked at the Statistics you'll see that it's not just one month that there were many deletions. Was Andre Engles the steward who granted you admin priviledges? He claims to be the one who was deleting a lot before you joined this wiki. Thanks for your patience and for helping to resolve this situation. Sincerely, ILVI 21:27, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]
The december 2004 vandalisme I reverted in March 2005 as well, as you can see here. Andre Engels gave me admin privileges. I can imagine that he deleted some "articles", because there really was a lot of non-encyclopedic rubbish at IA.wikipedia. Jcb 21:52, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]
ILVI I have read the thread at the wikimedia mailinglists and both en:User:Anthere and nl:Gebruiker:Andre Engels have asked you to back off. I have also looked at the facts myself and I must say JCB handled in an integer way. So back off and start looking into what really happened. Getting annoyed by your behaviour. Waerth 19:45, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]
Look, Waerth, I don't like that tone, so talk nice or keep the words to yourself, see! I am looking into what really happened. I'm getting annoyed at your behavior as well. Fi! Vade via e non molesta me plus. ILVI 21:27, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]

discussion closed?[modificar fonte]

hi ILVI, may i consider the discussion about Usator:Jcb closed, and that he is now again indubitably a valuable sysop at ia.wiki (he is imho)? oscar 23:53, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)

btw i received an email allegedly from you to which i was unable to reply, because the address was phoney, did this really come from you? oscar 23:53, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)

Indubitably yes. The discussion about Jcb having responsibility for the massive deletions and blanking of articles is closed. He wasn't the one doing it. The IP addresses I blocked are still being looked into and traced. I apologize if I've ruffled feathers. I was getting answers to requests made by several contributors who had done valuable work for this wiki. Regarding the email if it was ilvi@cheshire.net that's an old address of mine which is probably still in the preferences. My current email for Wikipedia is auxilingua@gmail.com and you're welcome to reply to this new address. Thanks, Oscar, for your help and calming demeanor throughout this situation. Sincerely, ILVI 05:19, 25 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]

notifications of mass deletion[modificar fonte]

hi ILVI, i would appreciate if you could clarify some of the points i raised in response to your questions, thx in advance for your reply. best regards, oscar 23:53, 24 novembre 2005 (UTC)

  1. do you still think there were any mistakes made in the deletions as shown by the log (after having checked the contents of deleted articles, such as any sysop can)?
  2. how come you suspected and blocked (see the blocklist) Usator:86.195.145.115 and Usator:86.195.145.5? the two ip's you blocked do not belong to jcb in my humble opinion, what exactly made you think they would, the emails you received?
  3. have you found any undesired deletions?

Okay then[modificar fonte]

Okay then, no problem. I have a vague memory of those blankings but at the time I was just starting to learn Interlingua and wasn't sure what the policy was here and I was paying attention to trying to write my own articles anyway. I do hope that you find out what happened and then are able to get back to writing articles again. I remember Almafeta being very good about writing articles here, both the content itself and the appropriateness for an encyclopedia. Good luck with this and I'll probably write a few articles here again from time to time. Mithridates aka Torquil 01:39, 25 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]

Thanks, you are kind with your words, and patient too. Thanks for hanging in there while I was poking around for answers. Unfortunately Almafeta and others seem to be disgusted about the situation with the way ia.wiki has been going. He is one of those truly helpful contributors who I dread losing at ia.wiki but as you may have seen if you check the Stats there's some pretty vile attacks on this ia.wiki more and more I'm getting a good idea of what has been happening with the deletions and who was behind the vandalism attacks. I'm sorry for the scare I must have given you, I was shaking the tree to see what would come down. You're to be commended for the work you've done and helping not only here but in other wikis as well, keep up the good work you're doing. Again thanks. Sincerely, ILVI 04:50, 25 novembre 2005 (UTC)[responder]


Trust in Wikipedia[modificar fonte]

this is Cathy from Hong Kong working on a research about trust on Wikipedia. I wonder if you would kindly contact me at researchingmedia@gmail.com? I'd like to chat with you about Wikipedia of your language. Would you kindly drop me your email or IM (Skype, MSN, AIM or ICQ)? It wouldn't take more than ten minutes, but it would help enormously for us to understand the overall trust-based social landscape of Wikipedia. Thank you!

Interligua is the greatest thing ever[modificar fonte]

I am an english speaker with some knowledge of spanish and french. I stumbled upon the interlingua biology article and was able to read it with nearly the same ease as an english article. wow. amazing.

Car amico Jay[modificar fonte]

Il sembla que le paginas super le Testes de Jehovah in Interlingua dispareva (Que require Deo de nos). An vos sape ubi iste documento iva? An vos es semper un membro de iste religion?

Amicalmente,

Martin http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Lavallee

Hi ILVI. A while ago I made a request for a bot bit to be set for User:SieBot at Wikipedia:Bot/Requestas. Could you please set the bit? Thanks. Siebrand 09:28, 3 septembre 2007 (UTC)[responder]

Dear ILVI; please look at the links at commons:user:i18n#useful links. Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 17:56, 7 februario 2008 (UTC)[responder]

Benvenite[modificar fonte]

Un benvenita alique retardate:

Benvenite a Wikipedia in interlingua!
Salute, ILVI, e benvenite a Wikipedia in interlingua! Gratias per participar in iste projecto. Es un bon idea leger le sequentes topicos ante que tu inicia tu contributiones a Wikipedia:

Le cinque pilares, un resumen del principios fundamental de Wikipedia.
Adjuta de Wikipedia, pro apprender plus super iste projecto.
Questiones frequente, pro un lista de le questiones plus frecuente super le projecto.
Taverna, ubi tu pote commentar e facer questiones a altere wikipedistas.
Le sabliera, pro facer probas de edition.
Isto es tu pagina de discussion, ubi tu pote reciper messages de altere wikipedistas. Non oblida signar tote le commentarios que tu face, con le button monstrate o con quatro tildes (~~~~). Rememora que le articulos no debe esser signate. Nos desira que tu frue tu experientia in Wikipedia!

Cordialmente,

André. 17:26, 10 junio 2008 (UTC)[responder]

Io non sapeva que tu es un del fundatores de iste wiki! Sed de tote manieras, generalmente le fundatores non es semper recognoscite por su grande labor. Congratulationes e io spera que tu continua in tu labor. Cordialmente, André. 02:06, 4 martio 2009 (UTC)[responder]

Ola, ¿ké tá te ba tó? Zoi Chabi, de la Guiki'n andalú. T'ehkribo porke aze munxo ke no zé ná'e tí y pa' peìr-te zi poíah azè argún artíkulo ke tenga ke bè kon loh Tehtigoh de YeHoWaH komo por ehemplo, trauzì ehte artíkulo. Munxah graziah pò tu ayúa. Noh bemoh en Guiki Andalú. --Chabi 17:54, 27 januario 2009 (UTC)[responder]

Ehpero ke te rekupereh pronto, rezaré por eyo. Yo no ayúo munxo en la Guiki'n interlingua, manke z'aze lo ke ze pué. Un gran abrazo'e --Chabi 21:56, 2 februario 2009 (UTC)[responder]

Mohamed ElGedawy → محمد الجداوي[modificar fonte]

Hi, I want to change my name from: "Mohamed ElGedawy" to: "محمد الجداوي", Because i have changed my username on many wikipedias.--Mohamed ElGedawy 07:00, 14 augusto 2011 (UTC)[responder]

Hi, sorry for writing in English. I'm writing to ask you, as a bureaucrat of this wiki, to translate and review the notification that will be sent to all users, also on this wiki, who will be forced to change their user name on May 27 and will probably need your help with renames. You may also want to help with the pages m:Rename practices and m:Global rename policy. Thank you, Nemo 13:31, 3 maio 2013 (UTC)[responder]

Your admin status[modificar fonte]

Hello. I'm a steward. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc.) was adopted by community consensus recently. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on wikis with no inactivity policy.   You meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for 2 years) on iawiki, where you are a bureaucrat and administrator. Since iawiki does not have its own administrators' rights review process, the global one applies.   If you want to keep your rights, you should inform the community of the wiki about the fact that the stewards have sent you this information about your inactivity. If the community has a discussion about it and then wants you to keep your rights, please contact the stewards at m:Stewards' noticeboard, and link to the discussion of the local community, where they express their wish to continue to maintain the rights, and demonstrate a continued requirement to maintain these rights.   We stewards will evaluate the responses. If there is no response at all after approximately one month, we will proceed to remove your administrative rights. In cases of doubt, we will evaluate the responses and will refer a decision back to the local community for their comment and review. If you have any questions, please contact us on m:Stewards' noticeboard.   Best regards, Rschen7754 22:53, 29 junio 2014 (UTC)[responder]