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Cross-wiki messages[modificar fonte]

Wiki Speaks Your Language[modificar fonte]

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Hello all and sorry for writing this message in English. It is my pleasure to inform you about the launch of the Wiki Speaks Your Language initiative with the goal of enriching the Wikimedia projects with freely licenced audio (and video) files documenting spoken examples of every language, language variety and dialect in the world.

The idea originates from the curiosity of many readers viewing language articles not only to read about the language but also to hear how does it sound. In most of the cases, our language articles lack such files and readers usually end up searching videos on YouTube, notwithstanding that we have the capacity as a movement and the resources to meet their wish.

The initiative lists three possible ways of acquiring the freely licenced audio (and video) files: 1) by adapting existing audio and video files on Wikimedia Commons (mostly from the Spoken Wikipedia projects), 2) by liberating existing audio and video files from the repositories of GLAM and educational institutions, and 3) by engaging Wikimedia communities, GLAM and educational institutions in the recording of new audio and video files.

In the first phase of the initiative, the easiest way to start is by working with the resources we already have and therefore my proposal and kind request to the Interlingua Wikipedia community is to get involved in adapting existing videos from the Spoken Wikipedia project. There are some useful tips on what the existing files should be adapted to. The adapted files should be categorised under "Category:Wiki Speaks Interlingua", tagged with WSYL template and added to the list of languages.

Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (discussion) 15:12, 15 januario 2017 (UTC)

Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[modificar fonte]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.

This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.

The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 20:31, 15 februario 2017 (UTC) • Per favor, adjuta a traducer in tu linguaGet help

Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[modificar fonte]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 19:44, 9 martio 2017 (UTC) • Per favor, adjuta a traducer in tu linguaGet help

We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)[modificar fonte]

05:09, 18 martio 2017 (UTC)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections[modificar fonte]

Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

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On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.

The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.

The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).

We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.

Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.

The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.

The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.

  • April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
  • April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
  • April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
  • May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
  • May 15–19 – Board vote checking
  • May 20 – Board result announcement goal

In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:

  • Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
    • There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.
  • Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
    • One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.

More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections(at)wikimedia.org.

On behalf of the Election Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 03:36, 7 april 2017 (UTC) • Per favor, adjuta a traducer in tu linguaGet help

Read-only mode for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May[modificar fonte]

MediaWiki message delivery (discussion) 17:34, 11 april 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata description editing in the Wikipedia Android app[modificar fonte]

Wikidata description editing is a new experiment being rolled out on the Wikipedia app for Android. While this primarily impacts Wikidata, the changes are also addressing a concern about the mobile versions of Wikipedia, so that mobile users will be able to edit directly the descriptions shown under the title of the page and in the search results.

We began by rolling out this feature several weeks ago to a pilot group of Wikipedias (Russian, Hebrew, and Catalan), and have seen very positive results including numerous quality contributions in the form of new and updated descriptions, and a low rate of vandalism.

We are now ready for the next phase of rolling out this feature, which is to enable it in a few days for all Wikipedias except the top ten by usage within the app (i.e. except English, German, Italian, French, Spanish, Japanese, Dutch, Portuguese, Turkish, and Chinese). We will enable the feature for those languages instead at some point in the future, as we closely monitor user engagement with our expanded set of pilot communities. As always, if have any concerns, please reach out to us on wiki at the talk page for this project or by email at reading@wikimedia.org. Thanks!

-DBrant (WMF) 08:41, 14 april 2017 (UTC)

International die de interlingua e anniversario de Wikipedia[modificar fonte]

Car communitate, felice international die de interlingua e felice anniversario de Wikipedia! --Julian (disc.) 12:09, 15 januario 2017 (UTC)

Categorias de mantenentia[modificar fonte]

(continuation de 2016):

Nunc existe Categoria:Peciettas de geologia. Tortoise0308 (discussion) 07:11, 18 januario 2017 (UTC)

E Categoria:Peciettas de gastronomia e Categoria:Peciettas de astrologia Tortoise0308 (discussion) 10:46, 21 januario 2017 (UTC)

Gratias Tortoise!--Jondel (discussion) 13:25, 6 april 2017 (UTC)

Autopaginas non connectite a Wikidata[modificar fonte]

Car communitate, il ha un grande numero de autopaginas de isotopos (micropeciettas del forma {{autopagina/typo/isotopo}}) que non es connectite a Wikidata. Io va deler iste paginas. Cordialmente, --Julian (disc.) 18:39, 22 januario 2017 (UTC)

Julian, proque? Proque no simplemente conectar in Wikidata? 92.229.165.179 22:20, 17 februario 2017 (UTC)

Julian, proque? 78.55.73.44 15:51, 15 april 2017 (UTC)

172 paginas de isotops delite per User:Julian Mendez https://ia.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Registro&offset=20170128194751&limit=173&type=delete&user=Julian+Mendez&page=&tagfilter=&hide_thanks_log=1&hide_tag_log=1&hide_review_log=1 78.55.73.44 15:57, 15 april 2017 (UTC)

Requesta de deletion[modificar fonte]

Pro favor dele Categoria:Maladia Cancere create de Usator:Jondel - non existe un articulo con iste nomine - Maladia Cancere. 85.180.176.33 08:11, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

Gratias por tu contributiones. Pro favor seniores crea tu perfil o nomen ut usario de iste wikipedia. Respecta pro favore nostra regulas e le membros e te adiuva. Gratias.--Jondel (discussion) 09:47, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

Jondel Excuse me, but where is this regila whereby to help need to be registered? Wikipedia is open to all a person can also help by anonymous

that everyone can contribute is among the principles of Wikimedia. --Samuele2002 (discussion) 18:16, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

Hey Samuel er what is regila? What is 'regila whereby to help need to be registered'?--Jondel (discussion) 14:00, 7 april 2017 (UTC)

To be clear, I am not saying it is a requirement to register. I am requesting that a user accoount be created which would help the user be more recognizable. Please don't misinterpret me. You don't have to tell me that Wikipedia is open to all. That I accept. This I cannot accept. You are being one sided if you choose to ignore this action. Tell me if other Users, and even more, other administrators would not call this vandalism. Even more, this Ip anonymous user considers it spam and is not willing to consider that his own vandalism. Sources are necessary in all articles whatever language it is, since this is an encyclopedia.--Jondel (discussion) 14:07, 7 april 2017 (UTC)

Why is he even asking that the Cancer Category be deleted? How can we let a lot of work be deleted. At least replace the category if he doesn't like it. That is fine. However it might be unfair to the other Users. He also choses to antagonize, trying to broadcast very baseless accusations that I am abusing admin powers. He made the first vandalism period. --Jondel (discussion) 14:17, 7 april 2017 (UTC)

"regila" of course means "regula". The accusations are about abuse are not baseless, facts have been provided, you used the admin tools in content conflicts that you were involved with. "Why is he even asking that the Cancer Category be deleted?" - The reason is given in the request. "This I cannot accept", that is your problem, don't use your admin rights to fight against your disabilities. "He also choses to antagonize" - well, look you call users "troll", you say "You are being one sided if you choose to ignore this action."
And all together, this section is about a specific deletion request, you ask that the requester registers and you start a discussion about the requester. You request that the requester registers, then this request that you made is questionned and then you discuss the questionner. (You don't have to tell me / You are being one sided if you choose to ignore this action.) Who is antagonizing here?
Discuss the request/question, not the requester/questioner. 85.181.102.0 16:37, 7 april 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for help and clarification. To be clear the category can be replaced else a deletion would be a vandalism. You work to to allow a description in the image at the infobox is very helpful. In a single article I will not pursue duplicate images. I will be trying to study how to create description at the infobox. Categories have been a part of all wikis since almost the beginning. It is very hard to understand why they should be removed. I don't think I (ab)used admin rights. It is hard isn't it to be both a registered user and conributer at the same time. I don't a blatant delete is just my problem but a problem of the wiki community. We can't allow that. --Jondel (discussion) 01:06, 8 april 2017 (UTC)

Re-introduction de infobox/typo/persona[modificar fonte]

Facite per Usator:Jondel, vide Discussion:Antonio Pigafetta 85.180.203.129 09:59, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

Lista de abusos de derectos del administrator per Usator:Jondel[modificar fonte]

  • 15:57, 3 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) blocava 77.180.123.93 (Discussion) con un tempore de expiration de 3 dies (usatores anonyme solmente, creation de contos disactivate, non pote modificar su proprie pagina de discussion) (Elimination de contento de paginas)
  • 21:12, 3 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) protegeva Radiologia [Modificar=Permitter solmente al administratores] (infinite) [Renominar=Permitter solmente al administratores] (infinite) [in cascada] (Vandalismo excessive) (hist)
  • 09:33, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) blocava 77.180.222.213 (Discussion) con un tempore de expiration de 3 dies (usatores anonyme solmente, creation de contos disactivate, non pote modificar su proprie pagina de discussion)
  • 09:41, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) blocava 85.180.176.33 (Discussion) con un tempore de expiration de 3 dies (usatores anonyme solmente, creation de contos disactivate, e-mail blocate, non pote modificar su proprie pagina de discussion)
  • 09:44, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) blocava 77.179.189.241 (Discussion) con un tempore de expiration de 3 dies (usatores anonyme solmente, creation de contos disactivate, e-mail blocate, non pote modificar su proprie pagina de discussion)
  • 09:52, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) protegeva Discussion Usator:Jondel [Modificar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) [Renominar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) (hist)
  • 09:53, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) protegeva Sutura chirurgic [Modificar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) [Renominar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) (hist)
  • 09:54, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) protegeva Antonio Pigafetta [Modificar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) [Renominar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) (hist)
  • 09:56, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) protegeva Resistor [Modificar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) [Renominar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) (hist)
  • 10:00, 4 april 2017 Jondel (Discussion | contributiones) protegeva Phase (materia) [Modificar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) [Renominar=Permitter solmente al usatores autoconfirmate] (infinite) (hist)

85.180.203.129 10:02, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

To anonymous contributers[modificar fonte]

Your contributions and ardor like the infoboxes,etc for interlingua and wikipedia is highly appreciated.

I am asking you nicely not to antagonize us/me, to create a user account, to not remove images, to explain if you remove images, to stop creating disension and misinterpreting, and stop demanding not to create useless articles without reasoning first. I am asking you nicely to behave as a good community member if you choose to participate here and not create factions. Your cooperation is highly appreciated. --Jondel (discussion) 14:30, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

The IPs did nicely collaborate with Usator:Holder, Usator:FritzVonHomburg, Usator:Samuele2002. The IPs removed images when not appropriate, e.g. on the page "radiologia" in the intro there was a picture of a radiologist, but that belongs to the article radiologista. Also images should not be put left hand before the article introduction text. It is bad style. Articles have infoboxes and hundreds, maybe several thousand articles pull images from Wikidata. One could even programm a detection re the existence of an image in a page - if an admin would not have restricted infobox editing to admins. Which admin is going to do it? None. The local admins are the main problem. Julian Mendez mass deleted articles, Almafeta created a filter so noone can create redirects or small pages via Wikipedia:Autopagina and Jondel restricts editing of several infoboxes to admins, blocks IPs, and names other editors "troll" etc..
"stop demanding not to create useless articles without reasoning first" - what? Stop demanding not to create useless articles? "I am asking you nicely to behave as a good community member" - the IPs did so. See the talk pages of Usator:Holder, Usator:FritzVonHomburg, Usator:Samuele2002.
There is still much clean-up to do, and then finally, Wikipedia:Expansion. But with the local admins, it is a problem. Maybe someone hired Esperantists to sabotage IA Wikipedia? 77.179.208.9 15:42, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

There are so many vandalizers among IPs as well. Your contributions are much appreciated. One at a time. A lot of arguments can be avoided if you could answer 'why don't become a member and even become an administrator'? Please understand the local admins are the ones who 'live' here and maintain the house. It's like you're a policeman without the identification, badge and uniform entering the house. You have to respect the admins because they are likely to maintain the system even when you are gone and not around. Maybe you could become an admin. If you want to contribute to the cause of knowledge or interlingua, you could blog. This wiki gets attacked by vandalists and use Ips and it makes me uneasy to deal with ip only users. Stop being so extremists and assuming admins are Esperantists. Please work with us. I assure there other admins who are less forgiving. --Jondel (discussion) 22:20, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

Where is the IP vandalism in this Wiki? This Wiki is highly controlable, articles must be attached in Wikidata, almost all articles have a Wikidata infobox - one can immediately check if someone altered some basic data. Also external links are discouraged, official website links can always come via infobox and Wikidata. Admins have to act in accordance with the rules. If a policeperson does against the rules, s/he has to be prosecuted and maybe excluded from the policeforce. "If you want to contribute to the cause of knowledge or interlingua, you could blog." - Of course. One could also go fishing and tell other fishers about interlingua. But what people do else in their life is their private stuff. You are uneasy with rule-conform behaviour (editing via IP) - maybe leave this Wiki if you have a problem with rule-conform behaviour. In iawiki it is perfectly fine to edit via IP. And without IP, the 2017 massive clean-up would not have taken place. All done to promote the Interlingua Wikipedia to a better status. 77.180.3.231 23:02, 4 april 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer and your contributions. Wiki may be controlable but vulnerable. Please don't be deleting images anymore. I am still uneasy about your category removals I think you are organizing it well. To be Clear there is no need to create User accounts but it makes the jobs of the administrators to monitor vandalism. Please avoid statements like "Maybe someone hired Esperantists to sabotage IA " I am glad to see that you work well with Holder , Fritz and Samuele. Kindly continue your work and respect the work of others and assume good faith.--Jondel (discussion) 11:25, 6 april 2017 (UTC)

This is one IP vandalism.--Jondel (discussion) 13:46, 6 april 2017 (UTC)

Interesting coincidence that shortly after a proof is requested there is IP vandalism from 181.xxx. It was immediately reverted by other IP and on continuation reported at Discussion Usator:Holder#Vandalism . Did you hire someone, or have you done it yourself, or is it just coincidence? How did you find it? 77.179.96.243 14:02, 6 april 2017 (UTC)
This is a perfect example of why we have this rule:" DoNotFeedTroll.svg  Per favor, non alimenta le trolls.". I ask nicely in good faith and now I get implicated with "Did you hire someone, or have you done it yourself, or is it just coincidence? How did you find it? "--Jondel (discussion) 15:20, 7 april 2017 (UTC)

You know you're the only one here who creates this kind of intrigue, misinterpretation and factionism. That will give a bad impression on you. Wow, so I'm the one who created this vandalism huh? Look I believe in Karma. Interlingua and wikipedia is supposed to bring more harmony and deeper communication. Why pursue interlingua and wikipedia if you are only creating discord, intrigue and misunderstanding. Please knock it off. This ip vandalism coincidence is ridiculous. Please don't be offended but you are behaving like a troll. Hey, I love to chat, I'm not engaging in this conversation. time to meditate. Please don't remove the images. The categories also need to be discussed approved or not by the administrators. Sorry mman, this is the way it goes.--Jondel (discussion) 14:12, 6 april 2017 (UTC)

There is no negotiation with trolls and terrorists. I ask nicely, he responds withWhere is the IP vandalism . When I provide an ip vandalism example, he now implies that I may be behind. Wow I am a secret IP vandalizer, despite the fact that I'm one of the earliest users here and in wikipedia as a whole, including the English the wiki where I am an administrator. Well I've been attacked by trolls before and I'm used to it. --Jondel (discussion) 14:26, 7 april 2017 (UTC)

Remover derectos de administrator pro Usator:Jondel[modificar fonte]

Usator:Jondel ha protegite le Patrono:Infobox. Le message es

Tu non ha le permission de modificar iste pagina, pro le sequente motivo:
Iste pagina ha essite protegite contra modificationes perque illo es transcludite in le sequente pagina, le qual es protegite usante le option "cascada":
Radiologia

2017-04-01 05:35 Jondel ha create le pagina, 16:45 un IP ha modificate le pagina e removite contento latin, anglese, un link, un imagen "(1) remove latin and English, 2) add infobox, 3) remove non existing categories, 4) convert "Fons" into "Referentias", because below there is ; 5) remove calls to non-existing template CommuniaCat, med-stipula 6) remove link spam)" . Jondel reinserteva le imagen del radiologista. 2017-04-03 un IP removeva e expliqueva proque ‎"(1) remove link spam 2) remove file spam (file belongs to radiologista)" Jondel reverteva e 2017‎-04-03 21:12 (Protegeva "Radiologia": Vandalismo excessive ([Modificar=Permitter solmente al administratores] (infinite) [Renominar=Permitter solmente al administratores] (infinite)) [in cascada])

Vide etiam Discussion:Radiologia ubi Jondel evita explicar le protection in cascada e le insertion del imagine e responde in anglese e con attacas contra le IP(s).

Le problem es un abuso de derectos del administrator. Le derecto non existe pro proteger paginas sin justification.

Le Patrono:Infobox es usate in multe articulos, su protection inhibe le disveloppamento del Wikipedia in interlingua. 77.180.159.158 02:19, 6 april 2017 (UTC)

Gratias pro tu ardor e contributiones. Wikipedia es vulnerable de vandalismo e es mi ration proque te roga respecto contributiones de alteras e non deler imagines. Sentio necessitas tu labora mejor como un membro de communitate. Io gaude que tu habes amice como Samuele. Pro clarificar non es necessario crear usario sed nos adjuta multe. Spero io non te continua facer 'rant' ok?--Jondel (discussion) 11:40, 6 april 2017 (UTC)
Totevia Patrono:Infobox es protegite. 77.179.96.243 14:13, 6 april 2017 (UTC)

Err, you want me to unprotect it?--Jondel (discussion) 14:16, 6 april 2017 (UTC)

Qualitate linguistic del contributiones de Jondel es problematic. Frequentemente ille cambia al anglese como es visibile supra.

Imagines ante le texto ubi existe un imagine in le infobox[modificar fonte]

Tres exemplos ubi al momento existe un imagine ante del texto: Amputation, Chirurgia, Radiologia in cata articulo ja existe un imagine in le infobox. Un exemplo de duplication de imagine es in Resistor. Le imagines in le infobox es mantenite per Wikidata, si un imagine plus bon es trovate, o un problem de licentia, iawiki pote profitar directe de un cambiamento in Wikidata. Si le cambio es facite de un editor de iawiki - iste editor adjuta a altere projectos Wikimedia.

Mantener imagines ubi es possible via infobox, permitte de reducer le modificationes de CommonsDelinker, vide Special:Contributiones/CommonsDelinker. Cata modification individual in iste Wikipedia es plus labor pro alteres.

Le ration general: reducer le modificationes manual in iste wiki, ubi es possible pro haber plus tempo pro creation de contenuto nove. Concentrar in Wikipedia:Expansion.

  • Amputation [1] le imagine in le infobox monstra persona con partes del corpo removite - le imagine individual monstra sport
  • Chirurgia [2] le imagine in le infobox e le imagine individual pare esser multe simile
  • Radiologia [3] le imagine in le infobox monstra un radiographia, le imagine individual monstra un homine in fronte de monitores, iste imagine ja es in le infobox del articulo radiologista
  • Resistor [4] le due imagines es exacte le misme

Attention! Durante le votation Jondel adde plus imagines al articulos

  • imagine de Harrison Ford de 2007(!) al pagina Han Solo [5]

Votation[modificar fonte]

  • remover le imagines individual proque le imagines del infobox es sufficiente. Le texto del introduction debe esser le prime contenuto pro le homine que lege le articulo. In Commons se pote crear gallerias de amputationes, chirurgie, radiologia, resitores, ma hic le concentration debe esser in texto encyclopedic. 77.179.96.243 13:52, 6 april 2017 (UTC)
  • poner le imagines individual face que le articulo essea interesante et explica multo sin explication. le imagines del infobox es solo et insufficiente. Gratias senior 77.179.96.243 a poner iste in votation.--Jondel (discussion) 14:25, 6 april 2017 (UTC)
  • I am in favor of removing duplicate images. --Samuele2002 (discussion) 12:18, 7 april 2017 (UTC)
    Thank you for your participation Samuele. Do we lose the description for the second image? Is there a place in the infobox for a description of the image?--Jondel (discussion) 13:55, 7 april 2017 (UTC)
    Wikidata can store image description. Add them there, and I will try to display it in the infobox. But, note, that all of Commons will be changed and redone in the next months, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/Sloan_Grant , so I personally would not put too much effort into image descriptions at the moment. Hopefully galleries including descriptions can also be created from Wikidata/Commons. 85.181.102.0 16:46, 7 april 2017 (UTC)


Wikipedia:Pecietta[modificar fonte]

Tote le peciettas es in le Categoria:Wikipedia:Pecietta. Le die 2017-04-08 le categoria contine 14417 paginas del spatio articulo. Le paginas total in le spatio de articulo es 20000.

Pro trovar peciettas super un thema se pote utilisar petscan.

Categoria Petscan Quantitate
Medicina https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865746 119
Physica https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865749 1252
Chimia https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865751 34
Astronomia https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865753 1211
Geographia https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865754 9765
Philosophia https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865764 318
Homine https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865759 812
Gastronomia https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865779 0
Astrologia https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865780 22
Geologia https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865781 9
Biota (minus homine) https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865784 1238
SUA https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=865785 437

Usator:Jondel, Usator:Samuele2002, Usator:FritzVonHomburg - que vos pensa de iste systema. Le altere Wikipedias utilisa duplication de categorias thematic. Le systema presentate hic, utilisa solamente le categorisation standard, plus un categoria pro peciettas.

  1. No perder tempo con creation de un structura de categorias thematic duplicate pro peciettas.
  2. Haber un structura plus fine, in petscan se pote filtrar pro scriptores anglese, musicos francese etc. E no solo "Geographia" ma anque per pais.
  3. Haber un systema plus objectivo, utilisante le KB del pagina.

77.180.191.191 04:05, 8 april 2017 (UTC)

  • So you are proposed to put the categories depending on the topic? In this case I support. --Samuele2002 (discussion) 08:11, 8 april 2017 (UTC)
    The topic (thematic) categories should exist anyway, for full articles and for stubs. With petscan and only one category for all stubs it can be avoided to create a second structure of topical categories only for stubs. 77.179.0.4 13:13, 8 april 2017 (UTC)
  • Haber solmente un categoria de peciettas sembla sufficiente a me. Ma io vole remarcar que un objectivo de 10K sembla alte pro le Wikipedia Interlingua. Totevia paginas debe haber plus texto que p.ex. "John Doe es un homine." FritzVonHomburg (discussion) 08:46, 8 april 2017 (UTC)
    FritzVonHomburg - Gratias. Le description supra es expandite, le 10 KB pare troppo. Le valor actual es ~ 1 KB, esseva un error in le description. 77.179.0.4 13:34, 8 april 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articulo con plus de 30 KB[modificar fonte]

In Special:Paginas longe se pote vider le articulos per orden de KB. Un usator ha requestate restaurar Patrono:IC 30K [7]. Le usator ha scribite "usate in 7 paginas de discussion: Discussion:James Cook, Discussion:Ecclesia Catholic, Discussion:Union Europee, Discussion:Esperanto, Discussion:Fungi, Discussion:Pais Basse, e Discussion:Espania" - ma proque in paginas de discussion? E le patrono non calcula, vole decir, si le KB in le articulo cambia, le assertation pote esser false. In plus ille ha scribite: "E special:paginas longe non es un surrogato: isto concerne le criterio de Meta pro un "articulo longe"." - Este es falso. Paginas longa monstra le 10000 articulos plus longe. No existe plus de 10000 articulos con 30 KB, ma solo ~16. Pro isso, le lista paginas longe contine tote.

Etiam existe Categoria:Wikipedia:Articulo con plus de 30 KB, automaticamente calculate de PAGESIZE. Usator:Jondel, Usator:Samuele2002, Usator:FritzVonHomburg - que vos pensa de iste systema?

  1. No perder tempo con creation de paginas de discussion
  2. Semper corrrecte, proque calculate per software
  3. Menos irritation : Si un usator vide que existe un pagina de discussion, ille debe contener discussion del articulo, no un marcation per KB. Le marcation no es discussion del articulo.
  4. Reducir laboro de mantenentia

Le restauration de Patrono:IC 30K es distraction, cata patrono superflue face plus difficil trovar le patronos relevante. Concentrar in Wikipedia:Expansion de contenuto encyclopedic, crear e meliorar contenuto. 78.52.249.67 20:43, 8 april 2017 (UTC)


Copiate ab Discussion_Usator:Samuele2002#Taverna:

But the IP does not understand, largely because the template documetation was terrible. I've tried to clarify it; please read; I'll translate if you like; comments welcome. Briefly, this concerns only the "long articles" among the "Articulos Vital" as determined by Meta. I don't know the details of their algorithm, but it's not simply PAGESIZE > 30000.
Who created the "old pecietta system"? Certainly not I. (Topic for another conversation.)
Cordialmente, Tortoise0308 (discussion) 20:30, 9 april 2017 (UTC)

Tortoise0308 - Of course for "30 KB" the criterion is PAGESIZE. Whether an article is in the top 1000 is decided by an independent criterion, namely the existence in the meta-list. PAGESIZE marking can be done by software. No manual marking, and never ever on discussion pages, which have a PAGESIZE different from the one of the article. It is increasing distraction to manually create pages to only store and show the KB of an article. 77.180.158.128 12:10, 10 april 2017 (UTC)

Tote isto pro evitar reparar septe ligamines rubie! Hastive modification de programmatura, creation de un inutile nove categoria, e le prosa supra. Le IP ha intendite mal le proposito del patrono proque le documentation esseva terribile. Io ha tentate clarificar lo. Per favor lege lo e Wikipedia:Annotation. Io traducea si vos lo vole. Brevemente, isto concerne solmente le "articulos longe" inter le "Articulos vital" como determinate per Meta pro su comparation de Wikipedias per monstra de articulos. Le resultatos se trova in meta:List_of_Wikipedias_by_sample_of_articles/Long Articles. Io non cognosce le detalios de su algorithmo, sed illo definitemente non es simplemente PAGESIZE > 30000. Tortoise0308 (discussion) 16:17, 10 april 2017 (UTC)
Tortoise0308 intende que mantenentia manual no es accurato. Si o no? 85.178.114.64 21:01, 10 april 2017 (UTC)

Progresso de automation[modificar fonte]

Vide

Wikipedia:Mantenentia[modificar fonte]

Paginas special - Reportos de mantenentia - LintErrors[modificar fonte]

Special:Paginas special:

78.55.73.44 15:27, 15 april 2017 (UTC)

Paginas special - Reportos de mantenentia - UnconnectedPages[modificar fonte]

Special:Paginas special:

Paginas special - Reportos de mantenentia - UnconnectedPages - Spatio Articulo[modificar fonte]

78.55.223.198 02:08, 15 april 2017 (UTC)

Paginas special - Reportos de mantenentia - Redirectiones duple[modificar fonte]

78.55.223.198 02:08, 15 april 2017 (UTC)

Remover derectos de administrator pro Usator:Almafeta[modificar fonte]

Almafeta ha

Almafeta no ha create un nove articulo/pecietta post 2014-01-08 https://ia.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fascismo&oldid=512536

Usator:Samuele2002, Usator:FritzVonHomburg, Usator:Jondel que vos pensa? Proque un conto que no ha facite contributiones al contento pote esser admin? 85.179.115.168 04:43, 17 april 2017 (UTC)

Io es a favor de remover derectos de administrator pro Almafeta. The user has not used correctly on the admin tools in particular creating that anti-abuse filter and then it is right that you remove the flag. (Then will serve some users who want to become admin admin active since the last month are only he and Jondel) --Samuele2002 (discussion) 08:06, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
Nota que le vandalista anonyme (91.9.*.*) ha essite active antea, ma il (anglese) esseva blocate globalmente (de cata Wikipedia). Pro qualcunque ration, iawiki esseva le sol exception. Iste vandalista anonyme exhibi comportamento identic; e iste include referentias a Julius Tominius, un sockpuppet de illo. Almafeta (discussion) 09:10, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
Io supporta sin reservation le derecto de administrator de Almafeta, quasi le unic persona actualmente active pro defender iste wiki contra un vandalo multo persistente. – Martijn (discussion) 13:20, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
Io etiam supporta sin reservation le derecto de administrator de Almafeta. Seniores IP anonymo tus contributiones como articulos etc es benevenite ma perfavore respecta le administration et sensus communitate hic et in alteras locos que va tu. Compartas vos(Seniores IP anonymo ) como infantes vel trolls. Nos es jam remanite hic multe annos.--Jondel (discussion) 16:07, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
Totalmente de accordo: io supporta sin reservation le derecto de administrator de Almafeta. Illa ha un historia longe de defender iawiki contra vandalismo. Illa defendeva illo durante le era de Lopez Viñals. Illa defendeva illo contra le assalto de Tobias Conradi quando ille esseva IP_91.9.*.*. Illa defenda illo nunc quando ille ha fugite a un ISP nove. Illa merita un medalia, non condemnation.—Tortoise0308 (discussion) 23:14, 20 april 2017 (UTC)
Io supporta sin reservation le derecto de administrator de Almafeta. --Julian (disc.) 19:25, 1 maio 2017 (UTC)

Remover filtros create per Almafeta[modificar fonte]

Gratias al filtros create per Almafeta (Special:Registro/abusefilter/Almafeta) no es possible crear redirectiones o paginas con patrono:autopagina.

Petition de deler le filtros. Le filtros es contra le idea de crear un encyclopedia libere, contra Wikipedia:Expansion. 85.179.115.168 04:52, 17 april 2017 (UTC)

Io es a favor de deler le filtros. --Samuele2002 (discussion) 08:07, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
Le filtros essera laxate a su nivellos regular quando le botes anonyme non ja vandalisa le wiki. Almafeta (discussion) 08:58, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
"Autopaginas" non debe esser create. Wikipedia es pro articulos scribite per personas. Io supporta iste filtro. – Martijn (discussion) 13:34, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
Nota que le filtros esseva troppo forte - io (e altere administratores) vide editations de bon fide filtrate heri per le filtros. Io ha laxate le filtros un pauc; pardono, e excusa me pro su incommoditates. Almafeta (discussion) 20:57, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
Almafeta Okay you can also maintain, however, then it goes in such a way that false positives are minimized. First to be put as an exception if the page is a redirect ( contanin #REDIRECT ) and another thing I can know what is the minimum size of the page after which the filter is not active? --Samuele2002 (discussion) 14:38, 18 april 2017 (UTC)
Le detalios del filtros contravandalistic non es publicate, pro que le vandalistas non pote evitar illos facilemente. (Nos apprendeva iste lection post que "le Jedi," e quando le vandalista currente initiava adder le messages del errores pro adder "texto" interlinguistic.) Pro evitar le filtros facilemente: registrar, e scriber phrases (id es, le mensura del pagina sin patronos, categorias, et cetera). Almafeta (discussion) 20:38, 18 april 2017 (UTC)

Disdeler paginas delite per Almafeta[modificar fonte]

Petition de disdeler le paginas delite per Almafeta:

  • 10:16, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Poiana (disambiguation)
  • 10:01, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Vulpes vulpes schrenckii
  • 10:00, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Fructo
  • 10:00, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Rattus norvegicus
  • 10:00, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Rattus rattus
  • 09:59, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Equini
  • 09:59, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Falsaficabilitate
  • 09:58, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Dinaelurus
  • 09:58, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Acrophoca
  • 09:57, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Procyon lotor maynardi
  • 09:53, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Bangkok (citate)
  • 09:53, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Panthera tigris corbetti
  • 09:53, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Lepus arcticus
  • 09:53, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Sciuridae
  • 09:52, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Imperio Mongol
  • 09:49, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Phasianidae
  • 09:49, 16 april 2017 Almafeta (Discussion | contributiones) deleva le pagina Cuculidae

85.179.115.168 04:56, 17 april 2017 (UTC)

Iste paginas esseva create per un bot con un historia longe del vandalismo de iste wiki. Celle paginas non esseva nominate in Interlingua, non esseva scribite in Interlingua (salvo errores o texto copiate de altere paginas, copiate pro evitar le filtro anti-abuso). Altere paginas create per vandalismo automatic - sin ulle revision per alicuno qui pote leger e scriber Interlingua -pote e debe esser delite rapidemente Almafeta (discussion) 05:13, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
De accordo con Almafeta. Como co-administrator io ha potite verificar iste deletiones, e io pote dicer vos que nulle contento real ha essite perdite. Le creation automatisate e massive de paginas sin contento real pollue iste wiki, ruina su valor informative, e debe esser impedite e blocate. Un pagina non existente debe continuar a non exister usque al momento que un persona real scribe un minimo de contento real pro illo. – Martijn (discussion) 13:42, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
De accordo io con Almafeta etiam. Per favore seniores anonymos de IP, da respecto ad operas de usores humanos et adminstradores de iste wiki in sensus de communitate e non a bots. --Jondel (discussion) 15:50, 17 april 2017 (UTC)

Vandalo retornate[modificar fonte]

Pro vostre information, le recente insertiones anonyme in le taverna ha essite facite per Tobias Conradi, un vandalo persistente que ha essite bannite globalmente de tote le Wikipedias del mundo in novembre 2015. Io lo sape con grande certitude perque, in responsa a mi interventiones recente, un persona del nomine Tobias Conradi ha comenciate a persequer me sur Facebook. – Martijn (discussion) 16:52, 17 april 2017 (UTC)

Are you sure it's him? Do you have anything to confirm to the whole community? I remember that we should remember to assume good faith in the actions that does the Ip isn't said that in ip actions there is a pattern of vandalism. --Samuele2002 (discussion) 17:22, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
I'm positive it's him. He's personally made that clear to me on Facebook by posting whines identical to some those "anonymous" IP addresses posted here. The assumption of good faith on his part ran out the day he was globally blocked on all MediaWiki wikis in November 2015, basically for a years-long pattern of generally behaving like a bull in a china shop and exhibiting a complete and persistent lack of respect for the community. This guy is bad news. Seriously, we don't want him here. See the links above for more information. Meanwhile now there are a thousands more unilateral and often damaging changes to clean up, such as gratuitous changes to templates, damaging the category hierarchy (as Almafeta reported earlier), introducing useless and annoyingly long-named categories to which every article was added (I cleaned that up earlier today), removal of thousands of perfectly ligitimate {{pecietta}} tags, moving all animal pages to their Scientific Latin names for "consistency" with Wikidata (what?), etc. – Martijn (discussion) 20:35, 17 april 2017 (UTC)
A uno qui regularmente ha legite nostre Modificationes recente e occasionalmente ha explorate wikidata, il es obvie que Tobias Conradi = Julius Tominius = Yeti2016 = Tin-99s = ... (varie altere nomines, multes derivate de elementos chimic) ... = IP_91.9.** = IP_77.*** = ... (varie altere IPs).
ille se presentava pro le prime vice in iawiki como Julius Tominius in januario 2016. Post alicun dies ille esseva identificate al nivello de Meta como un marionette de Tobias Conradi e esseva blocate. Ille percurreva per un dozena de altere nomines, tote blocate como marionettes de Conradi. A vices ille continuava con su activitates sin aperir un session; on non habeva le necessitate de checkuser pro vider que su IP habeva le forma de 91.9.**. Post le blocada de Americium-231 ille continuava como un IP (a vices adjuvate per Bernd Muller, probabilemente un altere marionette) usque que Almafeta blocava le IP active, IP_91.9.98.57. Depost, le integre extension extension 91.9.** esseva blocate globalment. (Del registro de blocadas:
13:48, 20 August 2016 Vituzzu globally blocked User:91.9.96.0/19 (anonymous only, expiration 13:48, 20 November 2016) (Banned user).)
Post un relevamento de tres menses un IP_77.180.106.161 appareva. Ille continuava con le programma del IP_91.96** como varie IPs: IP_77.***, IP_78.***, IP_85.***, IP_92.***.
(Plus sequera)—Tortoise0308 (discussion) 04:14, 21 april 2017 (UTC)

Nomines de animales e plantas[modificar fonte]

Il sembla que il non ha un consentimento secundo si le nomine scientific o le nomine de Interlingua debe esser usate pro animales e plantas. Al momento es il sembla que le majoritate del paginas usa le nomine latin. Ma a alto McDutchie criticava mover paginas de animales al nomines scientific latin.

Proque isto primarimente es un Wikipedia de Interlingua, e non un Wikipedia botanic o zoologic, il es probabilemente preferibile usar le nomine de Interlingua, p.ex. Lupo in loco de Canis lupus, Mais in loco de Zea mays, etc. Ma isto debe esser facite consistentemente, o il habera un situation chaotic o luctas de renominationes.

Es anque le question si il debe haber paginas separate pro plantas e lor recoltas. Quando ambes es peciettas es forsan preferibile haber solmente un pagina. FritzVonHomburg (discussion) 07:57, 18 april 2017 (UTC)

Gratias pro comenciar iste discussion. Io es de accordo con te: isto es le Wikipedia in interlingua e dunque le titulos deberea esser in interlingua si possibile. Un consistentia total probabilemente non essera possibile. Certe species non ha nomines in interlingua. Alcun nomines in interlingua refere a plure species.
Quanto al ultime question, io suppone que isto refere a Patata e Solanum tuberosum. Si, illos es peciettas ora, ma es possibile que le articulos essera expandite in le futuro. Me pare que le alimento e le planta es topicos satis distincte pro meritar duo articulos, como illos etiam ha duo entratas distincte in Wikidata. Alcun wikipedias (inter illos le anglese e le francese) describe le duo in un articulo, le resto ha duo articulos. Isto es un situation infortunate pro le ligamines interwiki. Haber duo articulos es plus consistente e assecura que un ligamine interwiki al version in interlingua appare in le articulos correspondente in tote le wikipedias. Dunque io prefere iste option. Ma mi preferentia non es multo forte. – Martijn (discussion) 09:12, 18 april 2017 (UTC)
Generalmente, il ha plure species pro cata typo de animal (200 species de patata, pro exemplo). In le articulo pro le nomine commun, on pote scriber re su historia, su influentia cultural (mythologic, economic/industrial, in cultura popular, et cetera), e su rango in le mundo; in le articulo pro un specie specific, one pote scriber re su discoperatura (o creation si modificate geneticamente), le derivation del nomine scientific, le tractos unic que le differentia, e su rango specific.
Nota que quando il ha sol un specie, le nomine commun debe esser usate - nomines encyclopedic debe esser facile pro locar e comprender. (Nota que le usage de parolas latin in loco de parolas interlinguistic esse un 'Conradismo', facite per botes...) Almafeta (discussion) 09:31, 19 april 2017 (UTC)

Nivellos taxonomic[modificar fonte]

Pro que paginas usa "taxon" quando il debe dicer specie? Un specie esse un typo de taxon, vere, ma specie es sol un typo de taxon. Il ha plure alteres: dominio, regno, phylo, classe, ordine, familia, genere, specie - e su variationes. (e.g., subspecie, superclasse, infraregno...) Esque usar taxon pro insinuar specie es un conradismo? Almafeta (discussion) 11:06, 19 april 2017 (UTC)

Probabilemente. In omne caso, le milles (?) de paginas que contine solmente le phrase "x es un taxon" care totalmente de valor informative. – Martijn (discussion) 20:25, 20 april 2017 (UTC)

New Page previews feature[modificar fonte]

Remotion total del patrono Infobox[modificar fonte]

Le patronos infobox... Su forma ideal pote esser plure utile. Actualisation automatic? Fantastic! Ma in actualitate, non.

  • Le patronos jam non esse traducite. Usator:ListeriaBot non ha le bit bot proque illa jam non edita in Interlingua.
  • Le patronos quasi non son editabile. Non es un problema de su permissiones... es un problema de su formato technic. Iste patronos calculate incorpora altere patronos calculate; pro isto, locar le fonte un error es un carga herculean.
  • Le patronos esseva insertate in massa per IPs e usatores cognoscite como sockpuppets del Conradi, un usator blocate globalmente.

Io ha essayate plure veces que reparar le patronos infobox. Ma io non ha succedite.

Nota etiam... nulle altere projecto Wikipedia usa patronos universal. Compara ia:Acido deoxyribonucleic a en:DNA, eo:DNA, es:Ácido desoxirribonucleico, fr:Acide désoxyribonucléique, it:DNA, pt:Ácido desoxirribonucleico, ru:Дезоксирибонуклеиновая кислота... nulle usa infocassas universal; illes sol usa imagines basic. Themas specific usa un patrono specific al thema, e non crea subpatronos sub subpatronos pro essayar crear un categorisation universal.

Io crede que nos debe disfacer le patronos infobox, reverter al patronos local que esseva destruite per Conradi, e recrear categorias. Postea, nos debe revisitar le idea de un patrono con actualisation automatic; ma pro ora, le damno facite per illes excede le valor impartite. Que pensa vos? Almafeta (discussion) 02:20, 20 april 2017 (UTC)

Ma qui ha le tempore pro facer iste reversion in massa? Esque il ha un methodo pro automatisar isto?
In alcun casos, le infobox sembla producer bon resultatos, con un imagine etc., e in tal casos nos poterea lassar lo. In altere casos, le infobox local reimplaciate es obviemente superior, in le qual caso illo deberea esser restaurate. Forsan es melior reguardar cata caso individualmente, in le curso del modification normal de paginas.
Alternativemente, reverte tote le infoboxes de un maniera automatisate, e nos pote reconsiderar le infobox manualmente postea, in le curso normal del modification.
Io volerea stoppar in omne caso que le infobox adde le pagina a alcun categorias inutile e non mantenite. Isto es un enoio. – Martijn (discussion) 17:52, 20 april 2017 (UTC)
Io non crede que essera possibile removerlos automaticamente... iste esseva le problema create per adderlos automaticamente. Io crede que le melior que on pote facer es que remover infoboxes quando notate, ma ante que initiar iste policia, io vole attinger consenso inter le usatores plus active.
Re le categorias non Interlingua... vere, ma ubi adde iste categorias? Io habeva que leger le codice fonte del filtro anti-abuso pro horas pro corriger errores minor con lo, e le "lingua" del patronos calculate es plure minus legibile, specialmente quando le patronos se include pro cifrar su funcionalitate. Almafeta (discussion) 20:52, 20 april 2017 (UTC)
Le categorias es addite per le subpatronos de "Infobox". Io es programmator e isto non es un mysterio pro me, totevia io non es si familiar con le codices usate in MediaWiki. In le proxime dies io va investigar como nettar le categorias generate per istes. Particularmente io vole impedir le generation de categorias anglophone con longe nomines. – Martijn (discussion) 11:04, 21 april 2017 (UTC)
Ben, post investigar, io crede saper como nettar le categorias create automaticamente generate per le "infoboxes". Le prime passo que io ha prendite es remover le addition automatic de paginas curte a Categoria:Wikipedia:Pecietta e de paginas longe a Categoria:Wikipedia:Articulo con plus de 30 KB. Isto es un mal idea; pro le recerca automatic de paginas curte e longe, nos ha jam Special:Paginas Curte e Special:Paginas longe, dunque non es necessari supercargar le mechanismo del categorisation per isto.
Pro le secunde passo, io vole modificar le generation del categorias "Instantia de ..." e "Subclasse de ...". Ab le puncto de vista de un lector medie, tal denomination es inutile. Per exemplo, in loco de "Instantia de insula", le categoria deberea esser simplemente "Insula". E io non vide le utilitate del categorias "Subclasse de ..." del toto. Si on vole navigar per le structura de datos de Wikidata, on pote facer isto in Wikidata mesme! Iste non deberea esser imponite a Wikipedia, que ha su categorisation proprie. Io va vider si io pote adder un articulo automaticamente a un categoria simple como "Insula" a condition que tal categoria jam existe; isto me pare utile. Le resto del categorias automatic, particularmente "Instantia non existente" etc., non utile. – Martijn (discussion) 22:54, 26 april 2017 (UTC)
Ora io pensa de haber stoppate le generation automatic de categorias sin senso per le patronos infobox. Pote durar un tempore ante que le servitor ha actualisate le contento de tote le categorias. Ora resta le labor de restaurar le categorias normal que Conradi ha delite de milles de articulos.
Durante mi modification del patronos io cambiava de opinion re 'adder un articulo automaticamente a un categoria simple como "Insula" a condition que tal categoria jam existe'. Isto ancora es plus mal que bon; primo, como Almafeta remarcava anteriormente, nos pote preferer un categoria a nomine plural; secundo, il ha sovente plure "instantias", e in tal caso istes esserea combinate in le nomine de un sol categoria, lo que es un follia. Io ha dunque eliminate tote le categorias automatic. Io non pensa que alcuno regrettara lor absentia; alteremente io securmente lo videra hic. – Martijn (discussion) 02:02, 27 april 2017 (UTC)

Patrono:Lista de nomines in le linguas fonte de interlingua[modificar fonte]

Le patrono Lista de nomines in le linguas fonte de interlingua ha essite introducite como parte del activitates del usator globalmente bannite Tobias Conradi. Illo monstra, a base de Wikidata, le traductiones del titulo in tote le linguas fonte de interlingua. Io questiona le utilitate de iste patrono; nos ha jam le columna "In altere linguas" con le ligamines interwiki pro iste scopo. Iste non se limita al linguas fonte de interlingua, ma include tote illos. Dunque io suggere le deletion del patrono in question. Opiniones? – Martijn (discussion) 17:58, 20 april 2017 (UTC)

Le idea de iste patrono es un del sol additiones conradistic que io pote, possibilemente, sanctionar... ma le problema es que Wikidata es mal traducite a Interlingua. Nota etiam que Interlingua esse basate in le linguas e su usages in le annos 1960s; alcun veces, le usage ha cambiate inter 1960 e 2017, un minutia importante pro comprender Interlingua, ma non cognoscite al redactores de Wikidate. Forsan nos pote reimplaciar le patrono autoimportate con un patrono create manualmente.
(Le patrono etiam exclude germano e hollandese...) Almafeta (discussion) 21:00, 20 april 2017 (UTC)
Nos totes pote modificar le datos in Wikidata como nos pote modificar iste wikipedia; si il ha mal traductiones in Wikidata, nos deberea corriger los. – Martijn (discussion) 10:58, 21 april 2017 (UTC)

Nomine del pagina principal[modificar fonte]

Un del decisiones prendite unilateralmente per un del sockpuppets del usator globalmente bannite Tobias Conradi es le renomination del Pagina principal a Wikipedia:Pagina principal, in iste modification. Iste cambiamento ha rumpite le ligamines directe al Pagina Principal, particularmente illos in altere sitos le quales nos non pote modificar directemente. Alcun Wikipedias (como le francese) include le prefixo in le nomine de lor pagina principal, alteres (como le anglese) non, dunque il pare que cata Wikipedia debe decider isto pro se. Mi puncto de vista es que le pagina principal face un parte integral del encyclopedia e io non vide un bon ration pro le prefixo, dunque io pensa de disfacer le renomination. Ma que pensa vos alteres? – Martijn (discussion) 16:12, 22 april 2017 (UTC)

In iste, io actualmente non ha problemas; technicamente, le frontispicio non esse un articulo, e non ha que esser locate in le spatio de nomines del articulos. Illo non me enoia. (In anglese, il ha un dicto re le frequentia del correctessa del horologio rupte...) Almafeta (discussion) 20:44, 22 april 2017 (UTC)
Post que leger, io notate altere problemas create. Pro exemplo, gratias a su stylo specialmente idiosyncratic, Categoria:Peciettas esseva movite a Categoria:Wikipedia:Pecietta (proque a nostre vandalista anonyme, le nomine del categoria ha que esser le mesme del nomine de alcun pagina, e paginas non pote usar le plural).
Io ferventemente desidera que io ha notate le retorno de nostre vandalista plus antea... Almafeta (discussion) 10:36, 23 april 2017 (UTC)
De accordo, etiam io desidera que io lo habeva notate antea. Ma ora nos ambes es active de novo e nos pote comenciar a reparar le damnos. Quanto al renomination del categoria de peciettas, io non ha opiniones forte; pro me es bon lassar lo. (Nota linguistic: "ha que" es un hispanismo; usa "debe".) – Martijn (discussion) 22:20, 26 april 2017 (UTC)

Reconsideration[modificar fonte]

Pensante plus, de facto, io ha un problema con iste renomination del pagina principal.

  • Primo, isto es un cambiamento facite unilateralmente e sin consenso per un vandalo jam bannite in le curso del evasion de su banno, lo que es ration sufficiente pro disfacer lo immediatemente.
  • Secundo, io non es de accordo in principio. Le spatio de nomines Wikipedia: es pro metapaginas sur le projecto que es Wikipedia, a saper politicas, directivas, information technic, reflexiones sur le practica de redaction, et cetera. Le pagina principal non es un tal metapagina: illo servi de puncto de initio pro le encyclopedia mesme, e dunque face parte de illo como un copertura face parte de un libro. Io poterea comprender un argumento logic pro mitter lo sub Portal como lo face le Wikipedia in svedese, ma iste practica non es commun. Alcun Wikipedias mitte lor pagina principal sub Wikipedia:, ma le plus grande e normative, le anglese, lo retene in le spatio de nomines principal, como lo face etiam multe alteres. Dunque le conformitate con altere wikis anque non es un argumento forte.
  • Tertio, le nomine Pagina principal ha essite in vigor desde 2008. Le renomination rumpe ligamines vetule/historic e le costume establite. Iste nomine anque continua a esser actual sur tote le altere wikis MediaWiki in interlingua, como Meta, Wikilibros, Wiktionario e alteres, e io simplemente non vide un ration forte pro differer de iste practica tanto establite.

A proposito, pois tu los mentionava: isto se applica equalmente al categorias de peciettas. Iste categorias non contine metapaginas, ma articulettos encyclopedic, dunque le infixo "Wikipedia:" es inappropriate.

Io va ora disfacer ambe iste cambiamentos. Si alcunes de vos vole (re)cambiar isto o cambiar altere cosa, nos pote cercar consenso hic in le Taverna e postea facer un cambiamento de maniera appropriate.

Gratias – Martijn (discussion) 16:14, 24 maio 2017 (UTC)

Autopaginas[modificar fonte]

Tote le 1498 paginas in Categoria:Wikipedia:Autopagina/articulo/isotopo es "autopaginas" de Conradi sur isotopos de elementos chimic. Illos care totalmente de information o valor encyclopedic e, viste que il non ha equivalentes in altere wikipedias, illos non ha perspectiva de ganiar tal valor in le futuro. Tote istes deberea esser delite. Ma io non vole deler 1498 paginas per mano! Esque il ha un bureaucrate o altere alte functionario qui pote facer isto de maniera automatisate? – Martijn (discussion) 04:35, 27 april 2017 (UTC)

Babel renovate e completate[modificar fonte]

Le quadros {{Babel}} in le paginas de usator ha de novo un aspecto familiar; io ha removite le aspecto "infobox usator" que un certe usator bannite imponeva, le qual produceva un disposition plus fede con alcun ligamines superflue a informationes technic jam disponibile alterubi.

In ultra, io ha meliorate le codice de maniera que on pote ora usar, sin limitation, omne nivello de habilitate (0 - 5, N) in combination con omne lingua supportate per le patrono. Finalmente, le quadro nunc monstra le nomines del linguas in interlingua. Vide Wikipedia:Babel pro plus information.

(Io ha inserite le functionalitate pro converter un codice de lingua a un nomine in interlingua in un nove patrono separate, {{Lingua}}, le qual non es limitate al uso in Babel: illo pote esser usate in qualcunque contexto desirate.)

Martijn (discussion) 04:26, 29 april 2017 (UTC)

Quadros info rupte pro le momento[modificar fonte]

Car amicos, io face actualmente tentativas de render le disposition del infoboxes introducite per Conradi acceptabile pro Wikipedia. Pro initio io vole eliminar iste titulo fede de codices al cyma. Ma isto es un defia: le codice del patronos es un chaos! Permitte me alcun tempore pro nettar isto, durante le qual le infoboxes essera rupte de varie manieras. Excusa le incommoditate. – Martijn (discussion) 17:08, 29 april 2017 (UTC)

Car Martijn, bon fortuna e gratias! Io ha un appello: An tu pote, pro favor, adde ulle documentation o notas re le infoboxes al pagina (o a ulle subpagina) de Wikipedia:Infobox. An tu face le labor pro melior le codice del patronos, nos pote meliorar su documentation simul. Almafeta (discussion) 20:43, 29 april 2017 (UTC)
Absolutemente, io lo facera, ma primo io debe apprender ben como iste patronos functiona, alteremente mi documentation essera inutile. Intertanto io debera tosto concentrar me sur altere aspectos de mi vita; Wikipedia menacia de devenir un obsession... Dunque, isto va prender alcun septimanas o menses, io time. – Martijn (discussion) 03:19, 1 maio 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Activitates[modificar fonte]

Car communitate,

Io creava le pagina Wikipedia:Activitates. Le proposito de iste pagina es le coordination e discussion de propositiones pro modificationes que ha un importante visibilitate. Le idea es basate in Wikipedia:Activitates pendente, sed con un organisation plus systematic.

Que pensa vos super isto? --Julian (disc.) 20:29, 1 maio 2017 (UTC)

Sin voler diminuer le effortio que tu ha investite in isto, io pensa que un structura si elaborate es plus appropriate pro un projecto/communitate plus grande que le nostre, con centos o milles de redactores. Nos ha forsan cinque redactores active e il me pare que es melior coordinar le cosas in un maniera minus formal. – Martijn (discussion) 18:14, 6 maio 2017 (UTC)

Io es de accordo con te, Martijn: le systema sembla designate pro un communitate multo plus grande. Io simplemente volerea haber un placia plus systematic que le Taverna, ubi on pote leger rapidemente le cambios proponite, in curso, e facite. --Julian (disc.) 20:41, 9 maio 2017 (UTC)

De accordo, Julian. Pro le momento, io volerea proponer que nos simplemente (re)comencia a usar le pagina Wikipedia:Activitates pendente. Io non mesmo sapeva de su existentia, o lo habeva oblidate. Pote esser un bon idea de annunciar lo in le quadro al cyma del Taverna, e de inviar hic periodicamente un rememoration sur le pagina e de su additiones recente. – Martijn (discussion) 21:27, 9 maio 2017 (UTC)

Io ha simplificate le instructiones e addite le summario a Wikipedia:Activitates pendente. A modo de test, le summario corresponde a 2007. Forsan nos poterea adder le summario (de 2017) al quadro al cyma del Taverna, e facer lo plus visibile. --Julian (disc.) 12:04, 13 maio 2017 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2017)[modificar fonte]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:

Expansions

  • Gale – Biography In Context database added
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Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, EBSCO, Taylor & Francis and Newspaperarchive.com.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 18:52, 2 maio 2017 (UTC)

You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Aaron.
This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.

Voting has begun in 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections[modificar fonte]

19:14, 3 maio 2017 (UTC)

Beta Feature Two Column Edit Conflict View[modificar fonte]

Birgit Müller (WMDE) 14:41, 8 maio 2017 (UTC)

Proposition de politica: Wikipedia non es un base de datos[modificar fonte]

Post le modificationes profunde e illicite facite per le usator globalmente bannite Usator:Tobias Conradi e le multitude de su marionettes e adresses IP "anonyme" durante le anno e medie recente, le quales continuava durante troppo de tempore sin action efficace per administratores local o global (in alcun casos mesmo con lor collaboration!), io pensa que es necessari introducer un nove aspecto del politica WP:NONES ("Lo que Wikipedia non es").

Io propone le addition, post "Wikipedia non es un dictionario", de un texto similar al sequente. Isto es un schizzo multo preliminar; io invita vostre commentarios e suggestiones!

Wikipedia non es un base de datos[modificar fonte]

  • Non include qualcunque typo o quantitate de datos in Wikipedia. Le datos e statisticas includite in Wikipedia debe supplementar un articulo encyclopedic; isto vole dicer que le datos mesme debe esser justificabile per lor valor encyclopedic.
  • Datos o statisticas que care de contexto o explication reduce le legibilitate e pote confunder; dunque, tal datos o statisticas debe esser formatate in tabellas e le articulos que los include debe explicar le contexto. Si tal tabellas impedi per lor grandor le lection facile del articulo, illos deberea esser separate in un pagina de appendice e summarisate in le articulo principal.
  • Le projecto Wikidata es un fonte multo utile de datos supplementari. Existe le possibilitate de inserer automaticamente datos ab Wikidata in articulos de Wikipedia. Usa iste enorme fonte de datos con prudentia, per exemplo in quadros informative. Non oblida que Wikipedia non es un speculo de Wikidata. Le actualisation automatisate de un certe selection de datos pote esser utile, ma omne articulo in Wikipedia debe esser principalmente sub controlo de redactores human.

Fin del schizzo. Que pensa vos alteres? – Martijn (discussion) 21:15, 9 maio 2017 (UTC)

Il me sembla un bon idea. Con respecto al tertie puncto, io dicerea:
  • Le projecto Wikidata es un fonte multo utile de datos supplementari. Le datos pro le articulos de Wikipedia debe esser prendite ab Wikidata, si ille datos es disponibile. Usa iste enorme fonte de datos con prudentia, per exemplo in quadros informative. Wikipedia non es un speculo de Wikidata: le contento de Wikipedia es pro lectores human e le articulos debe esser mantenibile per redactores human.
— Le precedente commento non signate esseva addite per Julian Mendez (discussioncontributiones) 11:10, 13 maio 2017‎ (UTC)
Gratias Julian, tu version es multo plus ben legibile. – Martijn (discussion) 00:10, 14 maio 2017 (UTC)
Pensante plus, io non es de accordo que le datos debe esser prendite ab Wikidata si disponibile; il pote haber bon rationes pro mantener datos local. Io cambiarea debe a pote.
In iste contexto io signala que Wikipedia in anglese ha un modulo separate en:Module:WikidataIB que es concipite specialmente pro le uso in quadros informative (infoboxes), e que da al redactores le controlo de usar Wikidata o non. Non es un surprisa que Conradi non optava pro copiar iste modulo. – Martijn (discussion) 14:11, 15 maio 2017 (UTC)

Il pare haber consenso, o al minus indifferentia. Io ha emendate le politica. – Martijn (discussion) 23:14, 23 maio 2017 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2017[modificar fonte]

18:06, 12 maio 2017 (UTC)

Marionettismo[modificar fonte]

Io propone como nove politica official de Wikipedia in Interlingua le pagina Wikipedia:Marionettismo (WP:MAR, WP:SOCK) que Julian traduceva ab en:Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. Como sempre, le consenso communitari es necessari, dunque per favor exprime vostre commentos e suggestiones. In caso de silentio, io lo prendera como approbation. :) – Martijn (discussion) 03:32, 15 maio 2017 (UTC)

Io es naturalmente de accordo. --Julian (disc.) 19:17, 15 maio 2017 (UTC)
Io concurre.--Jondel (discussion) 04:43, 21 maio 2017 (UTC)

Bon, le politica es adoptate. – Martijn (discussion) 06:27, 26 maio 2017 (UTC)

Prototype for editing Wikidata infoboxes on Wikipedia[modificar fonte]

Hello,

I’m sorry for writing in English. It’d be great if someone could translate this message if necessary.

One of the most requested features for Wikidata is to enable editing of Wikidata’s data directly from Wikipedia, so the editors can continue their workflow without switching websites.

The Wikidata development team has been working on a tool to achieve this goal: fill and edit the Wikipedia infoboxes with information from Wikidata, directly on Wikipedia, via the Visual Editor.

We already asked for feedback in 2015, and collected some interesting ideas which we shared with you in this thesis. Now we would like to present to you our first prototype and collect your feedback, in order to improve and continue the development of this feature.

We present this work to you very early, so we can include your feedback before and all along the development. You are the core users of this feature, so we want to make sure that it fits your needs and editing processes.

You will find the prototype, description of the features, and a demo video, on this page. Feel free to add any comment or feedback on the talk page. The page is currently not translated in every languages, but you can add your contribution by helping to translate it.

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to follow all the discussions on Wikipedia, so if you want to be sure that your feedback is read, please add it on the Wikidata page, in your favorite language. Thanks for your understanding.

Thanks, Lea Lacroix (WMDE)

RevisionSlider[modificar fonte]

Birgit Müller (WMDE) 14:44, 16 maio 2017 (UTC)

Join the next cycle of Wikimedia movement strategy discussions (underway until June 12)[modificar fonte]

21:10, 16 maio 2017 (UTC)

Nove notification quando un pagina se connecte a Wikidata[modificar fonte]

Salute a totes,

(Per favor, adjuta a traducer in tu lingua)

Symbol OK.svgOK Facite. – Martijn (discussion) 21:07, 17 maio 2017 (UTC)

Le equipa de disveloppamento de Wikidata es sur le puncto de introducer un nove function in tote le Wikipedias. Se tracta de un nove typo de notification (via Echo, le systema de notification que vos vide in cyma al dextra de vostre wiki si vos ha aperite session) que informara le creator de un pagina quando le pagina se connecte a un elemento Wikidata.

Vos sape forsan que Wikidata forni un systema centralisate pro tote le ligamines interwiki. Un nove pagina, quando create, debe esser connectite al elemento Wikidata correspondente, lo que se face per modificar iste elemento de Wikidata. Con iste nove notification, le redactor creator de un pagina essera informate quando un altere redactor connecte le pagina a Wikidata.

Screenshot Echo Wikibase notification.png

Iste function essera introducite le 30 de maio sur tote le Wikipedias, con le exception del anglese, francese e germano. Le function essera predefinite como disactivate pro usatores existente e como activate pro usatores nove.

Iste es le prime passo del introduction. Le Wikipedias e altere projectos Wikimedia sequera in le proxime menses.

Si tu ha un question o suggestion, lassa me un message, o seque e commenta le entrata Phabricator.

Gratias a Matěj Suchánek qui disveloppava iste function!

Gratias! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee elections[modificar fonte]

21:05, 23 maio 2017 (UTC)

m:Requests for comment/Global centralnotice for the blockade of the Turkish government[modificar fonte]

Hi, you are invited to participate in the discussion on the proposal to make a banner through m: centralnotice to inform more people around the world about what the Turkish government has done about Wikipedia, ie all the language versions of Wikipedia are You are obscured, so in Turkey it is impossible to view the * .wikipedia.org site. To hope that the Turkish government will remove the block, it is necessary to raise awareness of this fact around the world because it is important to succeed in this mission because Wikipedia can not be seen in Turkey. With this message also for those interested, I invite him to sign the Wikimedian appeal.

If you have any questions or questions do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks best regards. --Samuele2002 (Talk!) 13:44, 26 maio 2017 (UTC)

Appoiate e signate. Gratias pro iste initiativa. – Martijn (discussion) 01:22, 28 maio 2017 (UTC)

Proposition de nove administrator[modificar fonte]

Io propone Usator:Tortoise0308 como nove administrator de iste Wikipedia. Per favor, vide Wikipedia:Administratores#Requestas pro leger le motivos e adder vostre opinion. Gratias – Martijn (discussion) 15:39, 1 junio 2017 (UTC)

Passive[modificar fonte]

To say "He is known as" , Is it better to say "Ille es cognoscite como" or "On cognoscite como"?--Jondel (discussion) 04:22, 13 junio 2017 (UTC)

"Ille es cognoscite como". Le pronomine on es como le francese on e le german man, in anglese one. --Julian (disc.) 19:32, 13 junio 2017 (UTC)
Gratias a tu O Julian!--Jondel (discussion) 00:30, 14 junio 2017 (UTC)