Wikipedia:Taverna 2013

Taverna

Benvenite al Taverna! Hic tu pote lassar messages al communitate de Wikipedia in interlingua.     , al fin de iste pagina.     Requestas de bots.     Activitates proponite in le Taverna.     Notificationes global in anglese (traduction).     Archivos del Taverna: 2012 | 2011 | 2010 | 2009 | 2008 | 2007 | 2006 | 2005     Per favor, non alimenta le trolls. English Welcome to the Tavern of Interlingua Wikipedia! Our Tavern is equivalent to the Village Pump on the English Wikipedia. Please add your comments at the end of this page, on a new section. To make bot requests, go to Wikipedia:Bot/requestas, and follow the instructions. Feel free to leave your message in English if you cannot write in Interlingua. Your message could be responded in Interlingua. If you don't understand Interlingua, please tell us. Thank you and enjoy Interlingua!

Tabulas pro articulos

Salute. Io besonia tabulas de information pro articulos super scriptores, libros, revistas e associationes. Sembla que illos non existe in le Wikipedia in interlingua, como pote io crear los o quales io pote utilisar pro iste function? Gratias.--PeioR (discussion) 18:46, 5 januario 2013 (UTC)

Io ha trovate jam tabula pro scriptores. Il me manca le resto. Quanto al tabula pro scriptores, il ha alcun parametros in anglese (p. ex. "Notabile works" in vice "Obras principal") e io non sape como cambiar los.--PeioR (discussion) 14:40, 6 januario 2013 (UTC)

Le practica recommendate es lassar le parametros in anglese e facer un interfacie de traduction in interlingua. Per exemplo, le patrono Infobox country es un copia del version in anglese, con parametros in anglese e le textos traducite. Le patrono Infobox pais es un patrono de traduction. In ille modo, il es possibile usar le tabulas del version in anglese, proque le parametros es compatibile, o facer directemente le version in interlingua. --Julian (disc.) 23:08, 7 januario 2013 (UTC)

Be a Wikimedia fundraising "User Experience" volunteer!

Thank you to everyone who volunteered last year on the Wikimedia fundraising 'User Experience' project. We have talked to many different people in different countries and their feedback has helped us immensely in restructuring our pages. If you haven't heard of it yet, the 'User Experience' project has the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries (outside the USA) and enhancing the localization of our donation pages.

I am (still) searching for volunteers to spend some time on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. **All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be very low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)**

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!!

Thanks!

Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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15 de januario - international die de interlingua

Felice international die de interlingua !

--Julian (disc.) 21:39, 15 januario 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Read-only mode expected.

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) Next week, the Wikimedia Foundation will transition its main technical operations to a new data center in Ashburn, Virginia, USA. This is intended to improve the technical performance and reliability of all Wikimedia sites, including this wiki. There will be some times when the site will be in read-only mode, and there may be full outages; the current target windows for the migration are January 22nd, 23rd and 24th, 2013, from 17:00 to 01:00 UTC (see other timezones on timeanddate.com). More information is available in the full announcement.

If you would like to stay informed of future technical upgrades, consider becoming a Tech ambassador and joining the ambassadors mailing list. You will be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Thank you for your help and your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 15:22, 19 januario 2013 (UTC)

Picture of the Year voting round 1 open

Dear Wikimedians,

Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2012 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We're interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year for 2012. Voting is open to established Wikimedia users who meet the following criteria:

1. Users must have an account, at any Wikimedia project, which was registered before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC].
2. This user account must have more than 75 edits on any single Wikimedia project before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC]. Please check your account eligibility at the POTY 2012 Contest Eligibility tool.
3. Users must vote with an account meeting the above requirements either on Commons or another SUL-related Wikimedia project (for other Wikimedia projects, the account must be attached to the user's Commons account through SUL).

Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons features pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you can vote for as many images as you like. The first round category winners and the top ten overall will then make it to the final. In the final round, when a limited number of images are left, you must decide on the one image that you want to become the Picture of the Year.

To see the candidate images just go to the POTY 2012 page on Wikimedia Commons.

Wikimedia Commons celebrates our featured images of 2012 with this contest. Your votes decide the Picture of the Year, so remember to vote in the first round by January 30, 2013.

Thanks,
the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee

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Help turn ideas into grants in the new IdeaLab

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

• Do you have an idea for a project to improve this community or website?
• Do you think you could complete your idea if only you had some funding?
• Do you want to help other people turn their ideas into project plans or grant proposals?

Please join us in the IdeaLab, an incubator for project ideas and Individual Engagement Grant proposals.

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking new ideas and proposals for Individual Engagement Grants. These grants fund individuals or small groups to complete projects that help improve this community. If interested, please submit a completed proposal by February 15, 2013. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG for more information.

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 20:30, 30 januario 2013 (UTC)

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Validation de paginas

Como io pote obtener permission para validar paginas (Vide hic)?. Esque iste permiso es dado automaticamente al usatores post un tempo? -- Remux - Io nunquam oblidara que io me inamorava del plus belle flor Ĉu mi povas helpi vin en io? 23:26, 14 februario 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata phase 1 (language links) coming to this Wikipedia

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally.

Wikidata has been in development for a few months now. It is now time for the roll-out of the first part of it on your Wikipedia. Phase 1 is the support for the management of language links. It is already being used on the Hungarian, Hebrew, Italian and English Wikipedias. The next step is to enable the extension on all other Wikipedias. We have currently planned this for March 6.

What is Wikidata?

Wikidata is a central place to store data that you can usually find in infoboxes. Think of it as something like Wikimedia Commons but for data (like the number of inhabitants of a country or the length of a river) instead of multimedia. The first part of this project (centralizing language links) is being rolled out now. The more fancy things will follow later.

What is going to happen?

Language links in the sidebar are going to come from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.

Where can I find more information and ask questions?

Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata

To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages. You can see previous editions here.

--Lydia Pintscher 16:07, 21 februario 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata phase 1 (ligamines de linguas) veni a iste wikipedia (traduction)

Pardono per scriber in anglese. Io spera que alicuno pote traducer isto localmente.

Wikidata ha essite in disveloppamento jam per alicun menses. Iste es le momento pro le displicamento de su prime parte in vostre Wikipedia. Le phase 1 es le appoio pro le gestion de ligamines de linguas. Illo es jam usate in le Wikipedia in hungare, hebree, italiano, e anglese. Le sequente passo es habilitar le extension in omne altere Wikipedias. Al momento nos ha planate isto pro le 6 de martio.

Que es Wikidata?

Wikidata es un loco central pro immagazinar datos que on pote usualmente trovar in infoboxes (tabulas de information). Pensa in illo como alique similar a Wikimedia Commons, sed pro datos (como le numero de habitates de un pais o le longitude de un fluvio) in vice de archivos mutimedia. Le prime parte de iste projecto (centralisar ligamines de linguas) se displica nunc. Le plus belle cosas venira depost.

Que occurrera?

Le ligamines de linguas in le barra al latere venira de Wikidata in addition al illos del texto wiki. Pro editar los, va al basso del ligamines de linguas, e clicca editar. Tu non ha plus necessitate de mantener iste ligamines a mano in le texto wiki del articulo.

Ubi pote io trovar plus information e facer questiones?

Alicun editores in en:wp (Wikipedia in anglese) ha create le grande pagina con omne le necessari information pro editores (in anglese), e il ha etiam un FAQ pro iste disveloppamento (in anglese). Per favor, face le questiones in le pagina de discussion del FAQ.

Io vole conservar me actualisate super Wikidata

Pro esser actualisate in cata cosa que occurre con Wikidata, per favor subscribe te al newsletter que se distribue septimanalmente al pagina de discussion del usatores subscribite. Tu pote vider previe editiones hic.

--Lydia Pintscher 16:07, 21 februario 2013 (UTC)

Traduction: --Julian (disc.) 21:04, 22 februario 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata phase 1 (language links) live on this Wikipedia

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.

As I annonced 2 weeks ago, Wikidata phase 1 (language links) has been deployed here today. Language links in the sidebar are coming from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.

Where can I find more information and ask questions? Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. It'd be great if you could bring this to this wiki if that has not already happened. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.

--Lydia Pintscher 22:59, 6 martio 2013 (UTC)

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Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful

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Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.

If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.

If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system. 19:57, 13 martio 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)

Conferentia international de interlingua

Salute,

Le Union Mundial pro Interlingua organisa le vintesime Conferentia International de Interlingua in Freiburg, Germania del 27 de julio al 3 de augusto 2013.

Le inscription es aperte ora.

Nos cerca tamben propositiones pro discursos e seminarios. Vide le appello a propositiones.

Esque il es appropriate annunciar iste conferentia in le pagina principal o altere loco prominente in Wikipedia in Interlingua?

Gratias,

Martijn (discussion) 13:21, 16 martio 2013 (UTC)

Salute,

In mi opinion, nos etiam deberea annunciar iste conferentia in le pagina principal.

--Julian (disc.) 20:15, 16 martio 2013 (UTC)

Facite. --Julian (disc.) 19:36, 19 martio 2013 (UTC)

Forsan vale le pena facer etiam un annunciation in wikipedia anglese, hic (sub "current events"). IJzeren Jan (discussion) 17:35, 25 martio 2013 (UTC)

Illo me sembla un bon idea. --Julian (disc.) 07:58, 27 martio 2013 (UTC)

Linguas slave/slavic

Io ha un question. In tote le dictionarios de interlingua io vide le adjectivo "slave", sed hic in le wikipedia interlinguese le plus sovente scribe se "slavic". Quala forma es correcte? E si "slavic" non es correcte, de ubi veni iste forma? Cordialmente, IJzeren Jan (discussion) 17:40, 25 martio 2013 (UTC)

Io ha cambiate tote le occurentias de "slavic" in "slave". Io spera, que vus es de accordo. IJzeren Jan (discussion) 17:48, 26 martio 2013 (UTC)

Le IED appoia le forma slave. Gratias pro le cambios. --Julian (disc.) 08:10, 27 martio 2013 (UTC)

Gratias. Interessante, que illes scribe "slave", ma anque "balto-slavic". IJzeren Jan (discussion) 12:24, 27 martio 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) coming to this Wikipedia

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.

A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. It is soon time to enable the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) and things are looking good. The next step is English Wikipedia. This is planned for April 8. If everything works out fine we will deploy on all remaining Wikipedias on April 10. I will update this part of the FAQ if there are any issues forcing us to change this date. I will also sent another note to this village pump once the deployment is finished.

What will happen once we have phase 2 enabled here? Once it is enabled in a few days you will be able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!)

How will this work? There are two ways to access the data:

• Use a parser function like {{#property:p169}} in the wiki text of the article on Yahoo!. This will return “Marissa Mayer” as she is the chief executive officer of the company.
• For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.

We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:chief executive officer}} instead of {{#property:p169}}. The complete plan for this is here.

Where can I test this? You can already test it on test2.

Where can I find more information and ask questions? We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.

--Lydia Pintscher 16:59, 5 april 2013 (UTC)

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Adejctivo de Espaniol?

Qual es le adjectivo in interlingua de "Espaniol"?, io pensa que le adjectivo es scribite del mesme maniera qui le substantivo (Isto es: Espaniol por le substantivo e por le adjectivo), sequente iste ideas, le nomine del articulo Association de academias del lingua espaniol es correcte, nonne? -- Remux - Io nunquam oblidara que io me inamorava del plus belle flor Ĉu mi povas helpi vin en io? 23:56, 22 april 2013 (UTC)

Certo.--Luca Ghio (discussion) 19:10, 23 april 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment on inactive administrators

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Read this message in English / Lleer esti mensaxe n'asturianu / বাংলায় এই বার্তাটি পড়ুন / Llegiu aquest missatge en català / Læs denne besked på dansk / Lies diese Nachricht auf Deutsch / Leś cal mesag' chè in Emiliàn / Leer este mensaje en español / Lue tämä viesti suomeksi / Lire ce message en français / Ler esta mensaxe en galego / हिन्दी / Pročitajte ovu poruku na hrvatskom / Baca pesan ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia / Leggi questo messaggio in italiano / ಈ ಸಂದೇಶವನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಓದಿ / Aqra dan il-messaġġ bil-Malti / norsk (bokmål) / Lees dit bericht in het Nederlands / Przeczytaj tę wiadomość po polsku / Citiți acest mesaj în română / Прочитать это сообщение на русском / Farriintaan ku aqri Af-Soomaali / Pročitaj ovu poruku na srpskom (Прочитај ову поруку на српском) / อ่านข้อความนี้ในภาษาไทย / Прочитати це повідомлення українською мовою / Đọc thông báo bằng tiếng Việt / 使用中文阅读本信息。

Hello!

There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.

We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.

All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.

Thanks, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 04:48, 24 april 2013 (UTC)

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Requesta pro commentarios super administratores inactive

Salute!

Il ha un nove requesta pro commentarios in Meta-Wiki que concerne le remotion de derectos administrative de wikimedianos inactive per longe tempore. In general, iste proposition del stewards applicarea al wikis sin un processo de revision de administratores.

Nos etiam compila un lista de projectos con proceduras pro remover administratores inactive in le pagina de discussion del requesta pro commentarios. Senti vos libere de adder vostre projecto(s) al lista si vos ha un politica super inactivitate de administratores.

Omne opinion es appreciate. Le discussion pote clauder in 21 de maio 2013 (2013-05-21), sed illo essera extendite si illo es necessari.

Gratias, Billinghurst 04:48, 24 april 2013 (UTC)

Traduction: --Julian (disc.) 20:32, 24 april 2013 (UTC)

Gratias pro tu traduction, Julian! PiRSquared17 (discussion) 20:50, 24 april 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) is here

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.

A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. We have now enabled the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) a month ago and two days ago on the English Wikipedia. Today all the remaining Wikipedias followed.

What does having phase 2 enabled here mean? You are now able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!) The current state is just the beginning though. It will be extended based on feedback we get from you now.

How will this work? There are two ways to access the data:

• Use a parser function like {{#property:p159}} in the wiki text of the article on Wikimedia Foundation. This will return “San Francisco” as that is the headquarter location of the non-profit.
• For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.

We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:headquarter location}} instead of {{#property:p159}}. The complete plan for this is here.

Where can I test this? You can test it on test2 if you don't want to do it in an article here.

Where can I find more information and ask questions? We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.

We are excited about taking yet another step towards allowing all Wikipedias share structured data and collect and curate it together. --Lydia Pintscher 19:09, 24 april 2013 (UTC)

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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming

Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.

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[ia] Cambio al systema de contos e cambio de nomine de contos

Alicun contos essera tosto renominate debite a un cambio technic que le equipa de disveloppatores face al momento. Plus detalios in Meta.

[en] Change to section edit links

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.

Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.

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Preoccupation super le articulos eminente

Io ha un profunde preoccupation re le articulos eminente. Se presuppone que le articulos eminente son le plus bon articulos in nostre Wikipedia, ma le articulo actual non solmente es un articulo multo parve, sed etiam illo non ha referentias! ni un referentia appare in tote le articulo.

Io sape que le communitate interlinguistic es parve, e que hic manca le adjuta de multo personas, e pro isto frequentemente appare le mesme articulos in le pagina principal, ma io pensa que nos debe selectionar cautemente iste typos de articulos proque ille es nostre fenestra al mundo e al altere interlinguistas. Esque non existeva altere articulo plus bon? -- Remux - Io nunquam oblidara que io me inamorava del plus belle flor Ĉu mi povas helpi vin en io? 05:54, 1 maio 2013 (UTC)

Salute Remux! Io es de accordo con te, le articulo que nos monstra in le pagina principal es un fenestra a interessatos in Wikipedia in interlingua. In consequentia, illo deberea esser scribite in perfecte interlingua e sequer le standards de qualitate de altere wikis. Le articulo que tu mentiona non sequeva le procedura usual de selection, e como tu dice, non es un articulo eminente. Sin dubita, le numero de contribuentes es un problema de difficile solution. Esque tu ha alicun proposition in mente? --Julian (disc.) 15:06, 4 maio 2013 (UTC)

In Wikipedia in espaniol on face concursos pro stimular le creation y melioration de articulos, forsan nos pote facer alcun cosa simile. -- Remux - Io nunquam oblidara que io me inamorava del plus belle flor Ĉu mi povas helpi vin en io? 01:50, 5 maio 2013 (UTC)

Forsan nos poterea crear un conto in twitter de Wikipedia in interlingua (@iawikipedia?), le majoritate de Wikipedias ha un conto in twitter, includite le Wikipedia in Esperanto (Ma iste conto es actualmente inactive), que pensa vos super isto? -- Remux - Io nunquam oblidara que io me inamorava del plus belle flor Ĉu mi povas helpi vin en io? 04:09, 19 maio 2013 (UTC)

Dubita super le titulo de Lingua langobardic

Salute! Io ha un dubita super si le titulo del articulo Lingua langobardic es correcte, io pensa que le titulo correcte es Lingua lombardic, per exemplo, io videva le articulo in altere Wikipedias, e le lingua germanic qui appare in le articulo es le lingua del "lombardos", nos ha un articulo super un lombardo, ille es le articulo super Theodelinda regina del lombardos. In le articulo super Theodelinda appare plure vices le nomine "lombardos" e "Lombardia", esque le nomine del lingua parlate per illes non deberea esser le lingua "Lombardic"? e non le "langobardic"?

PD: Le articulo esseva create per un usator anonyme. -- Remux - Io nunquam oblidara que io me inamorava del plus belle flor Ĉu mi povas helpi vin en io? 05:23, 5 maio 2013 (UTC)